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Re: Power Steering Pulleys [by eightinline]

Thu, 17 May 2012 23:32:37 -0000

General:: Power Steering Pulleys
Thanks you guys, I will pull them and send them on. I appreciate your time.

Re: NOS door panels for sale [by 58L8134]

Thu, 17 May 2012 22:58:13 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: NOS door panels for sale
Hi Ross

Nice looking '56 President Classic! How about a couple pictures of it? They were the basis for the '57 Clipper Town Sedans. The '57 President Classic gave up it's nicer interior, moulded-in door and folding rear seat center armrests to the '57 Packard.

When the '56 Studebaker restyle was in the works by Vince Gardner, I suspect one of the parameters laid out by Nance to get rid of the unfortunate "droopy p---s" look of the '53-'55 sedans was to impart a familial look with the Clippers and Packards. It was a big aesthetic improvement over the previous cars.....at least for my taste.

Steve

Re: 54 Clipper Deluxe Rear Axle, Brakes & Wheels [by Ozstatman]

Thu, 17 May 2012 22:43:07 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 54 Clipper Deluxe Rear Axle, Brakes & Wheels
Quote:

SpencerB wrote:...I am willing to just give them to someone that has a use for them...

Spencer,

A great sentiment but what this? Others here have "donated" parts and as a "quid pro quo" the recipients of the parts donated have in turn made a donation to PackardInfo. A win-win-win situation! Donation button is at bottom of right side column of this page under Recent Photos..

Re: Hard Starting when warm on a 1940 120 Convertable [by robtroxel]

Thu, 17 May 2012 22:20:30 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: Hard Starting when warm on a 1940 120 Convertable
Tim,

Thanks..will do and report back.

RT

Re: Southern Arizona Appraisal [by Ozstatman]

Thu, 17 May 2012 21:37:57 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: Southern Arizona Appraisal
Ray,
for including your '56 Executive Hardtop Coupe in the Packard Owner's Registry.

Re: Tail Fins [by GearRat52]

Thu, 17 May 2012 21:35:53 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: Tail Fins
Alrighty then, I will get that bezel shipped out to you.

Awesome! A visor would look great on your PackPatty. I had been toying with the idea of putting a visor on mine. I saw it one day with the sun visors down in the car, and it gave it that look like it had one. I've always like the external sun visors.

-GearRat

Re: What year and model? [by Rob S.]

Thu, 17 May 2012 21:28:49 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: What year and model?
Bravo! and thank you.

Re: Wade's Workshop [by Ozstatman]

Thu, 17 May 2012 19:50:24 -0000

Project Blogs:: Wade's Workshop
Quote:

Owen_Dyneto wrote:Mal, I always very much enjoy reading your posts - given how long some are I hope you touch-type and aren't a 2-finger typist...

Dave,

Not even 2 fingers! Basically one finger, middle right, with a little assistance from the left forefinger for left sided keys like shift, caps lock and tab! Even then I get it wrong, don't know how many posts I've lost because of hitting the wrong key! Plus I'm sure the keyboard letters move around. How is it possible that I make the many spelling mistakes found when proof reading?

Regarding the valve grinding gear, I'm sure Wade would snap one up if he found one. It was only last year he finally came across a king pin reaming set and bought that. I like your valve holding rack, a lot sturdier than floppy pieces of cardboard. The other ready-to-hand valve holder that Wade usually uses is the used head gasket, off the engine being worked on, which has enough head stud and water passage holes for that purpose. But, in this instance, the 356 engine came without a head gasket hence a MBM cardboard setup.

Re: Generator nut. [by Owen_Dyneto]

Thu, 17 May 2012 18:32:19 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: Generator nut.
PackardV8's technique with the fan belt and channel locks is a classic method and works very well and easy to do. I looked at a couple of other Delco's, they were all RH thread.

Re: Front Grill, 1939 120 [by Mike Collinge]

Thu, 17 May 2012 17:40:32 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: Front Grill, 1939 120
Hi William

Nice looking car.

Jeppe Tyres can get you the original spec tyres, with the wide white wall. They are flipping expensive (R18000 for six), but they look soooooo good.

Re: 51 tail lights needed [by flackmaster]

Thu, 17 May 2012 17:27:23 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: 51 tail lights needed
backup plan, I have a pair of NOS tail lights, less lenses.

Re: Master Cylinder Paint Color [by BigKev]

Thu, 17 May 2012 16:49:39 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: Master Cylinder Paint Color
Everyone that I have seen has been natural cast. If you wanted to paint it, you could use some of that Eastwood "Fresh Cast" paint to maintain the appearance.

Re: Newest Articles [by BigKev]

Thu, 17 May 2012 16:45:52 -0000

General:: Newest Articles
Now Online!

US-Rubber Passenger Car Spark Plug Chart (pre-war)

Enjoy!

Sagging Door Handles on a 1940 120 Convertable [by robtroxel]

Thu, 17 May 2012 16:20:18 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: Sagging Door Handles on a 1940 120 Convertable
I konow this problem seems to exist on most 40-42 Packards. What is the best way to fix the handles so they dont droop? Are there replacement springs or handle assemblies out there? If so where?

Thanks

Rob Troxel

Re: 1956 Packard Patrician ? in Junk Yard [by patgreen]

Thu, 17 May 2012 16:09:09 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1956 Packard Patrician ? in Junk Yard
Break a leg!

Re: Trans fluid change: What else to do? [by patgreen]

Thu, 17 May 2012 16:06:23 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: Trans fluid change: What else to do?
Leaks a little bit where the controls go in; otherwise fine....

Wanted: power steering pulleys for '54 [by eightinline]

Thu, 17 May 2012 13:41:37 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Wanted: power steering pulleys for '54
I am in need of the two stock pulleys needed to put a power steering pump on my 1954 Cavelier. Thanks

Re: V8 forged crankshaft on eBay [by Packard8]

Thu, 17 May 2012 13:27:42 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: V8 forged crankshaft on eBay
Quote:

Jack Vines wrote:
Quote:
engine had the wrong harmonic balancer.
Just for our information, which wrong balancer did it have? jack vines

Been many years ago, but as I recall it was a 56J balancer with worn rubber isolator on a 374 crate motor (service long block) installed in a 56 GH. The crank split between the #1 & #3 rod journal as I remember. It still ran fine as the rods held it together, just a steady "tic, tic, tic".

An experienced old time mechanic friend declared "broken crank" as I pulled into his shop with the engine running.

This is the only one I've ever heard of.

wanted 51-4 convertible parts car [by Ross]

Thu, 17 May 2012 11:57:30 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: wanted 51-4 convertible parts car
Title says it all. Need all the convertible related parts for a special project. Mega cancer, ruined chassis, etc are no problem. Thanks.

Rebuilt 365 (359) ci [by 58L8134]

Thu, 17 May 2012 11:35:46 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Rebuilt 365 (359) ci
Hi

This link showed up on the SDC Forum:

http://www.valleyhead.com/sales.html

Comes out 365 ci with the .030 overbore, would be a good engine for a Caribbean or Pacific.

Steve

Re: There are rumors in circulation... [by Rocky46]

Thu, 17 May 2012 08:50:39 -0000

ZIS, ZIL, and other Packard Cousins!:: There are rumors in circulation...
Quote:

55PackardGuy wrote:

I noticed that Norway was conspicuously absent as an importer, although Sweden and Finland are on board. Of course, that might say something very positive about the Norwegians!

Sadly I have to admit that even Norway had an importer for Lada untill mid 1990, when taxation made it impossible to sell.
Also Denmark had an importer.

Tom

Re: differential whine [by BDeB]

Thu, 17 May 2012 07:52:25 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: differential whine
Quote:

africapackard wrote:

The info in this thread regarding the ratios is usefull. Is it easy to see the ratios on the diff casing? Is it stampe don the outside somewhere or canb I count teeth?

Regards
Barrie from South Africa

The marking on the outside of the casing is hard to see without a lot of cleaning and I have found it to not always be that reliable.
Counting teeth on the ring gear and pinion is good, but the tooth count and/or ratio are marked on the outer diameter of the ring gear along with the Packard part number, so if the carrier assembly has been removed from the axle housing it is easy to read.

Brian

Re: Tips on painting a hubcap? [by Chaireasy3]

Thu, 17 May 2012 07:10:23 -0000

General:: Tips on painting a hubcap?
Gorgeous hub caps.....I have the same style but for a 53 clipper. I was wondering if anyone would have the rims that would go with dog dish hubcaps. The rims have no clips but the rim is molded with 3 lips on it where the hubcap snaps into place.

Any ideas on where one could find rims like that either packard originals or another make or model that would fits the hubcaps??

Re: Wanted fender skirts for my 51 business coupe [by HH56]

Thu, 17 May 2012 04:05:01 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Wanted fender skirts for my 51 business coupe
51-3 have the same part number. Different for 54. Not sure what the changes are or if 54 would fit or attach the same as on earlier.

If you don't find a pair from someone here, Big Jim's might have some used. http://www.bigjims.net/othersk.htm

Re: 1955 Packard 400 with factory air on eBay [by PackardV8]

Thu, 17 May 2012 03:56:01 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: 1955 Packard 400 with factory air on eBay
On second look, the HD plug box had a small acorn nut directly in the top center of chrome cover. I do not see such a nut on the chrome box in the pic.

Re: Connie kit,53,300 sedan cavalier [by randy berger]

Thu, 17 May 2012 03:51:59 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: Connie kit,53,300 sedan cavalier
1953 convertible with continental. Click on pic to read text.

Re: 1952 Packard Mayfair [by Packard0]

Thu, 17 May 2012 03:47:29 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: 1952 Packard Mayfair
I guess I should have been more specific, I needed/wanted to decide "today" because of another competitive buyer.

Re: 1953 Packard convertible very nice driver [by 55PackardGuy]

Thu, 17 May 2012 02:58:06 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1953 Packard convertible very nice driver
Randy,

More great facts. I was wondering if the 300 might be a candidate platform for the convertible. But wasn't the 300 a long-wheelbase Packard??? Things are so sketchy about these models, it seems to be taking several Packard heads together to get to the bottom of it!

Awesome pic of the chassis Owen-- not having had a lot of experience with the undersides of these cars, I'm wondering what has been added. Is that actually a second X under the first? It looks like it's attached to extra heavy rails as well. I bet this, like many convertibles, weighed a lot more than the standard model it was based on.

I hope this info helps the seller to present the car to its best advantage on e-bay. After all, this is a buy-sell forum.

steering wheel interchange question [by John Miller]

Thu, 17 May 2012 02:52:34 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: steering wheel interchange question
I was able to purchase a good,1939 Super 8/standard 12cylinder steering wheel, no cracks or signficant wear, but does need to be painted.
The one with the two loop bars to the center.
My question is will it fit our 1940 110 with out modification.
Thank You
John Miller

Re: Fuel Pump [by 55PackardGuy]

Thu, 17 May 2012 02:37:15 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: Fuel Pump
Quote:

Owen_Dyneto wrote:

As to "sediment" bowls, they are invariable on the suction or intake side of pump and never show any air space. Senior Packards up until about 1939 used glass bowls with a fine brass screen above to prevent fluid turbulence from allowing any of the sediment to pass on into the pump internals. Most of the double action post war pumps use a metal cup sediment bowl, again with a screen. But the filter you discuss with the pleated paper element that "floats" must be improperly sized or installed, the element fits securely to the casting at the top so that no fuel can get around it. Take it apart and I suspect you'll find the problem.

Sorry Owen, I'm not an expert and don't have a perfect 20-year plus memory. There was no "casting" in the bowl cover, the filter press fit onto a metal tube (the filter was only open at one end). This setup provider a much larger, finer filter area than a ceramic type. It was OK, but still a hassle to remove the bowl for replacement.

The bowl filter is a sediment bowl no matter where it's placed, (hence you clean what has settled into it once in a while, as you noted). I don't know about 1939 filters/bowls or double action pumps, but I suspect that those bowls were placed on the intake side of the pump to act as a pre-pump filter, as is recommended today with electric pumps. Some mechanical fuel pumps come with a bowl attached, glass or metal (1947 Dodge, for instance), which I doubt has any other filtering properties than to catch sediment and water.

The presence of air in a glass sediment bowl/filter is an interesting phenomenon, but solving the question of why it's there isn't very helpful: as noted in my last post and again in a later one--even translucent in-line filters show "air space" and work fine. I'm sure there is air in the metal in-line filters as well, but we just don't see it.

Re: 1948 Firewall [by packard666]

Thu, 17 May 2012 00:30:30 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: 1948 Firewall
Here's another photo. Sounds like you need a wiring diagram, think I saw them on another Packard club site.

good luck.

Re: WTB 327 R-8 [by toresin]

Wed, 16 May 2012 17:32:37 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: WTB 327 R-8
hey,thanks alot.i hawe allready sendt him a PM,lets hop he still got it

Re: Wiper motor [by joeyearl]

Wed, 16 May 2012 17:15:27 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: Wiper motor
Thank you, Howard. That looks like where it belongs.

Re: oil bath air cleaner element 327 - 2bbl [by BigKev]

Wed, 16 May 2012 17:08:05 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: oil bath air cleaner element 327 - 2bbl
As Ross said, the ones labeled inlet on the bottom were for the early 356 motor, and had an internal By-Pass feature if the filter got plugged. Which could happen as that style filtered used the inside of the filter, which presented a smaller filter surface area. I just reversed the pluming on mine to match the later cars, and it has been fine. (Inlet on the side)

Re: Wanted: 1954 Senior head light rings with fins [by packardguy53]

Wed, 16 May 2012 16:26:46 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Wanted: 1954 Senior head light rings with fins
Hello Al,
I sent you a PM this AM. Thanks for responding.

Steve.....

Re: For Sale: 1936 120 Touring - Ebay [by Bill_OBrien]

Wed, 16 May 2012 16:22:49 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: For Sale: 1936 120 Touring - Ebay
Thank you for the kind words. She still needs a new home!

Re: Engine Bay detailing on a '56 dual carb car [by Owen_Dyneto]

Wed, 16 May 2012 16:20:10 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: Engine Bay detailing on a '56 dual carb car
Interesting to know the correct way of placing the upper generator support. I had it backwards and was very surprised of the little clearance with the fender... no wonder!

There's at least one factory photo that shows it incorrectly, but that just again points out the risks in using photos from display engines or mockups to determine details.

Re: City Council conders fate of Packards [by Bill_OBrien]

Wed, 16 May 2012 16:08:58 -0000

General:: City Council conders fate of Packards
*Update*

http://blog.hemmings.com/

Scroll down on that page..

Barland died in December 2004, but the city of Lawrence didn�t become concerned about the property until a couple of years ago, when city officials discovered more than a dozen Packards among the junk and scrap metal on the property.

The city began to lean on Barland�s family to clean up the property in March of this year, which has led the family to put the Packards up for auction.

The 15 Packards listed in the auction range in date from 1950 to 1956 (no Packardbakers here!) and are offered in non-running condition, but appear not to have suffered from scavengers or hood ornament harvesters over the decades

see link for details on the 15 Packard autos being offered--
http://kansasauctions.net/elston/05/26.php

Seller: Raymond F. Barland Estate / Auction Note: Day of Auction inspection or by appointment only!! Brian Barland (785)840-7464

1. 1956 Clipper Super 4 dr. Model 5642 auto, Torsion Level 2. 1955 Clipper Custom 4 dr. Model 5562-8623, White Jade, Auto
3. 1955 Clipper Super Panama 2 dr. Model 5547-2369, Saphire/Moonstone
4. 1956 Executive 4 dr. Model 5672A-1335 Dover White/Maltese Gray
5. 1953 Clipper Deluxe Sedan 4 dr. Model 2662-23273 Black, Auto
6. 1952 200 Deluxe Sedan 4 dr. Model 2562-14956 Maroon, Standard
7. 1956 Clipper Super 2 dr. Model 5647-2037 Blue, Auto
8. 1953 Clipper Sportster 2 dr. Model 2697-3592 Ivory
9. 1950 Standard Eight Sedan 4 dr. Model 2392-5-39589 Spruce Green, Std
10. 1950 Standard Eigth Sedan 4 dr. Model 2392-5-44529 Blue Metallic
11. 1956 Executive 4 dr. Model 5672A-2370 Green, Auto
12. 1956 400 2 dr. Model 5687-1985 White, Auto
13. 1950 Standard Eight Sedan 4 dr. Model 2...

Re: 1932 4sp syn. Trans. [by Owen_Dyneto]

Wed, 16 May 2012 15:22:56 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: 1932 4sp syn. Trans.
Just out of curiosity could BOTH transmisions in the boat tail be shifted from INside of the car while driving??

Yes.

Re: Add-On-Air Conditioning, 54 Cavalier. [by PackardV8]

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:55:55 -0000

General:: Add-On-Air Conditioning, 54 Cavalier.
The RELAY:

I'm wondering now if STARTER relay coil section will hold up to hours of continuously energized. I would think it would.

I have a gerry rigged application here using a 12v ford starter relay that stays energized for 3 to 12 minutes at a time with maybe no longer than a 15 minute "off" time between cycles. Even on a real hot day for 8 to 20 cycles the relay only gets warm to the touch but never anything that would be considered hot. The coil section wireing of the relay has a 12v feed thru 14 feet of fire FROMm cigarette liter of vehicle.

But i can not claim several hours of SUSTAINED energized relay use as would be the case with Air conditioning.

Re: Grill Removal [by Appin]

Wed, 16 May 2012 03:40:59 -0000

General:: Grill Removal
Bump....already goy several barks in the paint trying to get it out. The grill is all unbolted. Should it slide out the front? Is there something I am missing?

Re: Adventures with a 1955 Clipper [by JW]

Wed, 16 May 2012 02:39:52 -0000

Project Blogs:: Adventures with a 1955 Clipper
Randy,

Thanks. Yes, those scratches, dents, and blemishes polish up nicely. Being parked between a very pretty pale yellow Chrysler Cross Fire and a bright yellow Corvette probably helped expose the Packard better.

(o[]o)

Re: WANTED: zis or zil!!! [by Gene in Indy]

Wed, 16 May 2012 01:16:18 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: WANTED: zis or zil!!!
You are entirely correct. I didn't read the entire ad on it. My fault entirely, I guess I shouldn't hurry and skim the ads like I do.

Gene

Re: Tips for Getting a 1941 Clipper Running [by Andy 41 Clipper]

Tue, 15 May 2012 23:27:12 -0000

General:: Tips for Getting a 1941 Clipper Running
Thanks for the info thus far I really appreciate it. I live in Racine WI it is just south of Milwaukee.

Re: PackardInfo Puzzle Corner [by Guscha]

Tue, 15 May 2012 22:36:54 -0000

General:: PackardInfo Puzzle Corner
I can't escape the feeling that the least sought-after square #2 is a key field. Minimum bidding price $1, buy it now $2. Be faster than anyone else. Be smarter than anyone else. Grab the chance. Now!

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________________________________________________
One member dropped a total of $3 in the donation box.

Wanted: 2 chrome tail fins [by packardguy53]

Tue, 15 May 2012 18:07:03 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Wanted: 2 chrome tail fins
I'm looking for two chrome tail fins for a 53 Clipper

Re: Tricky Dickie's Packard [by Guscha]

Tue, 15 May 2012 16:29:37 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: Tricky Dickie's Packard
Quote:

...and I should have known it...

Ken (kts68), I don't think so. In the timeframe of 70 years considerably more than 100 U.S. embassies around the world accommodated more than 1,000 ambassadors. Who should know all the names? First and foremost the vendor is in charge to verfy his offer.

BTW Not even Richard Nixon always knew where he stood.

A Packard in front of the Soviet embassy. Never let it be said that Russians have a poor taste in cars.
[picture source: LIFE]

1954 Convertible Project Available [by carguyjed]

Tue, 15 May 2012 16:28:50 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1954 Convertible Project Available
1954 Packard Convertible
- Partially restored & needs a good home to finish the job.

I began the restoration project in 1992 and set-out restoring the car to a high standard with the intention of showing it. The car was stripped down to the bare frame, the entire chassis was powder coated and the suspension rebuilt while the engine and transmission was being rebuilt. This is where things started to go wrong. The mechanic working on the front suspension was badly injured wha strap holding a spring in place let go. Someone else completed the reassembly at the shop and I was never happy with the result. I should have taken this as a bad omen.

The newly rebuilt engine and transmission were reinstalled in the chassis. Work progressed on the car at a slow pace with the entire rolling chassis ultimately completed. Most of the chrome was replated and other component parts were restored during this time. The restoration shop, still short handed by the injury pretty much stopped working on the car not too long after completing the chassis.

To move the project along I took the car to another local shop that had a great reputation for doing metal work. Once there the body work from the firewall back was done all in metal. The rockers required a little patching, the rear quarters required more significant repairs and the paint was stripped from the rest of the body.

The car was supposed to have the doors, trunk and other sheet metal fitted and finished but a change in job status for me forced me to halt the project. The car was moved to my garage in 1995.

The story jumps to 2009 when I set about to finish the car. I sent it another local shop that I had dealt with over the years with orders to get the car running and finish the bodywork and paint. I won�t go into detail but after 2 � years and getting the help of an Attorney I finally g...

Re: 120 Exhaust Manifold Needed ('35 - 40) [by BigKev]

Tue, 15 May 2012 16:09:37 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: 120 Exhaust Manifold Needed ('35 - 40)
Usually the horns will work fine on 12v, just need to "tune" them a bit using the adjustments inside on the horn mech so the sound is correct.

Re: 734 Speedster [by West Peterson]

Tue, 15 May 2012 15:17:17 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: 734 Speedster
Yes. You are correct. I was just focusing on the powerplant.

Re: Horch 830 BL for sale [by Guscha]

Tue, 15 May 2012 08:04:04 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Horch 830 BL for sale
Quote:

Horch 830 BL 300 000$

David
Cell: 4146302853
email: Davlet145@gmail.com
Just found

Just? The photographs come from a back copy of the Russian car magazine "ZR" --> (2011.04.01)
I believe that he stopped in mid-sentence. Just found ... --> in the internet for $217,688.
Avoid!

Re: noisy lifters (hydraulic) [by steve-52/200]

Tue, 15 May 2012 06:02:02 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: noisy lifters (hydraulic)
oh oh it looks like the oil line from the brass blocks on the older set up go to the oil filter assembly in the opposite way as the later set up
in the old set up for the 40's engines the line from the junction block goes to the bottom and out the top top ,and on the 50's set up it goes to the top
and out the bottom of the filter assemble !!I guess the oil could run either way and still have to pass through a filter element hmmmm
is the actual oil filter itself different internally between the two decades of cars? now I wonder if I have the right oil filter since the oil blok set up is wrong for the year car

Re: Needed: Front Engine Saddle for 39 Packard Super 8 [by Gene in Indy]

Tue, 15 May 2012 01:51:59 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Needed: Front Engine Saddle for 39 Packard Super 8
I just got a call from a gentleman out west and it appears he has the parts I need. I'll be getting them this next week so I can actually see what these pieces look like.

Gene

Re: Fuel pump kits [by Dell]

Tue, 15 May 2012 01:38:45 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Fuel pump kits
Thank you Howard

Re: Please Help to find zil or zis in USA [by dav]

Tue, 15 May 2012 01:14:05 -0000

ZIS, ZIL, and other Packard Cousins!:: Please Help to find zil or zis in USA
Please People Help!!!
wanted zis or zil. people help.

Re: 1948 Super Eight Resurrection [by GearRat52]

Tue, 15 May 2012 00:51:50 -0000

Project Blogs:: 1948 Super Eight Resurrection
Awesome! Lookin' forward to it!

Glad to hear you are having such a good time driving her, and she's going better the more you drive.

-Garrett

Re: 1954 Cavalier Parts [by dadoc]

Tue, 15 May 2012 00:39:20 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1954 Cavalier Parts
Just an aside here...if there are any needs for a '54 Cavalier, ther eis one here in south Alabama. The owner would part it out and I would be glad to look for you. The car is complete but rusty...very well equipped (wonderbar, hydraulic equipment, PS, PB Ultramatic) lower body is shot

Re: just a sideline [by HH56]

Mon, 14 May 2012 21:05:50 -0000

General:: just a sideline
One tilting dump table and presto, 1000 instant dump trucks. 1000 Soviet (or Chinese) citizens with baskets and shovels, and presto, one bulldozer.

Wanted pair of 41 clipper door handles [by Andy 41 Clipper]

Mon, 14 May 2012 19:53:43 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Wanted pair of 41 clipper door handles
Looking for clipper door handles for a 1941 for both front doors.
Please let me know if you have any for sale or if you know where I can buy a pair. Thanks!

Re: 17th annual All-Packard Swap Meet & Packard Car Show [by truckmen]

Mon, 14 May 2012 19:40:05 -0000

Shows and Events:: 17th annual All-Packard Swap Meet & Packard Car Show
All I can say is...WOW!

What a wonderful day it was; I am very glad I (and my fiancee, Alina) had the chance to get to this great swap meet. We met really wonderful folks and had the great opportunity to sit down to breakfast with friendly and knowledgeable folks.

Thanks, Dave, and Bob and everyone else for taking the time in speaking with us. I am sure looking forward to meeting up with them and others we have not had the please yet to meet.

Ralph M Bohm

Packard Engineer: Michael J. Kollins [by RogerDetroit]

Mon, 14 May 2012 19:04:23 -0000

General:: Packard Engineer: Michael J. Kollins
MotorCities National Heritage Area is an affiliate of the National Park Service and is dedicated to preserving, interpreting and promoting the automotive heritage of the State of Michigan. It is one of 49 National Heritage Areas in the United States and it is the largest concentration of auto-related sites in the world.

Each week the MCNHA sends out an e-mail to members (I think membership is free) and offers up a quick story related to automobile history. The latest e-mail discusses Michael J. Kollins, a Packard engineer and former test driver.

http://www.motorcities.org/Story+of+the+Week.html?utm_source=MotorCities+Newsletter+Vol.+3+Issue+15&utm_campaign=You+Auto+Know+Newsletter&utm_medium=email

I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Kollins and arranged for him to be the guest speaker at Motor City Packards Perrysburg Meet in 2004. Unfortunately, he passed away in December 2003 and we had to schedule another speaker.

As the above story mentions, Michael Kollins liked to create cars from two different manufacturers � like the 1958 Kollins Le Grande Roadster. This was a combination of a 1930 Duesenburg, model J and a special frame built by A.O. Smith and based on the 1950 Packard Super Convertible design.

You can a read about that car here:
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z15932/Kollins-Le-Grande-Roadster.aspx

Re: BigKev's 1954 Packard Clipper Deluxe Sedan [by 55clipperguy]

Mon, 14 May 2012 18:14:05 -0000

Project Blogs:: BigKev's 1954 Packard Clipper Deluxe Sedan
Great idea! Mission creep is worth it after all..

Re: Has Anyone Tried an Electric Water Pump? [by Jack Vines]

Mon, 14 May 2012 17:48:20 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: Has Anyone Tried an Electric Water Pump?
Quote:

I see it all the time. 361 cubic inches, 350 horsepower, 800 ftlbs of torque, motor is shot by 150,000 miles even with the benefits from clean burning emission controls. And that is in a motor with reinforced main bearing webs.

Tim is obviously referencing a diesel engine.

They work much harder for their living than does a Packard V8. Can anyone imagine the next rebuilt Packard V8 to run up 150,000 miles?

Bottom line, of all the changes one could and should make to a Packard V8, an electric water pump is way far toward the bottom of the list. It's an incredible lot of work for very little benefit.

jack vines

Re: Carburetor Question [by HH56]

Mon, 14 May 2012 17:46:00 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: Carburetor Question
You might do a search for Edelbrock on site. Several posts over the years, some with model number & type suggestions. One former poster had used them and recommended as a direct replacements (with a couple of minor things additional needed) for the 4GC. I don't remember if there was much info on any supercharging applications.

Looking for a Roller [by SaveTheHash]

Mon, 14 May 2012 17:39:32 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Looking for a Roller
I am looking for a clipper (2 or 4door), patrician (2 or 4door), even a 57 Hudson Hollywood (2 door)....Simply one that has a solid body and a good dash and takes originally came with a 352 or a 374 v8....engine can be included, but if it runs or not is not important to me.

Thank you,
SaveTheHash

Re: Have you seen these? [by packard666]

Mon, 14 May 2012 17:06:26 -0000

General:: Have you seen these?
Have #1. Haven't seen #2 before.
Thanks.

Re: wiring harness routing help [by harrybar]

Mon, 14 May 2012 16:56:24 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: wiring harness routing help
I now see how it is done. I removed a chrome piece in front of the radiator right where your bar was, and I can see the clips that hold the harness. Thank you for your help.

Re: Batt to starter cable specs? 53 Clipper 327 [by Tobs]

Mon, 14 May 2012 16:35:55 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: Batt to starter cable specs? 53 Clipper 327
My transporter admitted to going to autozone and carquest to look for packard parts
I chastized him and he will try napa next...I imagine they should be able to be of more help.

Re: Packard Photo Essay - Detroit News [by Owen_Dyneto]

Mon, 14 May 2012 13:46:43 -0000

General:: Packard Photo Essay - Detroit News
Roger, thanks so much for posting that. Several of the vintage photos were "new" to me and I did enjoy them.

Re: 1956 Panama coupe [by SaveTheHash]

Mon, 14 May 2012 03:42:23 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1956 Panama coupe
I think I just may be interested. Maybe just a couple photos and I could ask for more, if it looks relatively solid. If it is still for sale.

Re: A question on master cylinders. [by PackardV8]

Mon, 14 May 2012 03:01:35 -0000

General:: A question on master cylinders.
I think the only question that remains at this point is IF there is any special bleeding procedures needed that would not apply to usual horizontal mount. I don't know.

Re: engine serial number [by BH]

Mon, 14 May 2012 02:41:58 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: engine serial number
Packard0 -

No need to look outside of PackardInfo. Our webmaster, BigKev, compiled and uploaded a Packard Engine Serial Number Reference to this site's Literature and Manuals archive - under the Miscellaneous Packard Information category. I find Kev's chart to be fairly comprehensive, yet easy to follow.

It shows that your engine number falls in the range for a 1954 327 - with solid lifters, as used in Clipper Deluxe models.

This chart is also duly noted in the FAQ post on IDENTIFICATION: Engine Serial Number Reference. Many good "Answers to Frequently Asked Questions" can be found via the FAQ forum.

Re: tire tube help needed [by Tim Cole]

Mon, 14 May 2012 02:18:52 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: tire tube help needed
I always hated those cat whisker things on the front fenders and have always wondered what the car would look like with veritcal catwalks rather than the horizontal bars.

1955 senior Valve Covers [by Kevin AZ]

Mon, 14 May 2012 00:19:38 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1955 senior Valve Covers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Packard-senior-Valve-Covers-for-V8-/290712302877?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43afcdb51d&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_1413

Please bid often gentleman.

Kevin Az aka manwhoownsone

1955 senior Valve Covers [by Kevin AZ]

Mon, 14 May 2012 00:19:38 -0000

Re: Part Identification [by Kevin AZ]

Mon, 14 May 2012 00:08:14 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: Part Identification

Thanks Howard for solving my mini-mystery. Much appreciated.

Re: wanted 32-34 coupe or conv [by danshan]

Sun, 13 May 2012 23:53:34 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: wanted 32-34 coupe or conv
Have we communicated about our 1933 Super 8 Convertible sedan?

Daniel

Re: packards in tv and movies [by Kevin AZ]

Sun, 13 May 2012 22:49:32 -0000

General:: packards in tv and movies
Good one Randy!

Re: Sticking #8 exhaust valve 359 [by Tim Cole]

Sun, 13 May 2012 19:10:52 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: Sticking #8 exhaust valve 359
If the valves are sticking after being serviced the inside of the guides are corroded and varnish collects within pits which then creates little wedges that close off clearances once the motor cools.

On the subject of the cylinder head I think that is an interesting issue given that engineers were fully aware that the L-head motor is subject to pre-ignition. I assume because the compression stroke creates a front that is not evenly distributed and causes diesel type combustion. The L-head motor is much more suseptible to piston noise than OHV motors.

That these rebuilt motors do it more as they age points to hot spots in the aluminum cylinder head probably from corrosion. Or perhaps the carburetors are worn and the Economizers are closing off too much under moderate throttle. I drove a 359 once that had an NOS carburetor and it did not ping.

The 356 head swap is academic, but a better solution would be to use lower compression pistons. A good machinist can turn .060 off the top in a mill. All that is required is the right specification. .060 is about one compression unit for a cylinder head. Of course for a motor rebuild the piston specification could be had from the manufacturer.

I was dealing with one of these pinging things and heard all about distributor curves and what not from now deceased experts, but I never bought it. Fortunately for the case I was handling the detonation was from over heating. The owner agrued with me that if the gauge is no solidly on Hot the motor is not overheating, even though it was spewing coolant out the over flow in the shop.

So I just fitted a 160 thermostat with out telling him what I was doing. He came in and started yelling at me that I wasn't installing the thing the right way. The car didn't have seat belts and I told him to drive it a fast as he wanted.

Re: 1937 Super 8 limo [by Owen_Dyneto]

Sun, 13 May 2012 17:20:22 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: 1937 Super 8 limo
The vehicle number on the patent plate (engine side of cowl) tells it all. What's the #?

If the tag is missing, let's start with the number of cylinders and the wheelbase. I assume from your thread title it's got 8 cylinders and thus not a Twelve. Is the distributor vertical on the top of cylinder head (Super Eight)?

Does it have a divider window between the front and rear?

The first section of the vehicle number will define the car. Some possibilities are:

1014 - sedan 5-7 pass
1014B - sedan 5-7 pass (commercial car)
1015 - limousine 5-7 pass
1015B - limousine 5-7 pass (commercial car)

All are on the 139 inch wheelbase.

Re: V8 Pistons [by SaveTheHash]

Sun, 13 May 2012 17:01:00 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: V8 Pistons
Brand new on this forum and I just wanted to thank this thread for all of the input.
I believe I am going to take my 352" to a 4.125" bore and go from there with standard 374" pistons.

Re: 1947 custom super clipper [by Wesley Boyer]

Sun, 13 May 2012 15:04:16 -0000

Project Blogs:: 1947 custom super clipper
Have you done anything to her?

Re: Show Car [by RogerDetroit]

Sun, 13 May 2012 13:04:03 -0000

General:: Show Car
I remember seeing it in RED.

Here is the complete history of the Edsel Ford Speedster:
http://fordhouse.org/speedster/

Make sure you click on the buttons at the top of the page and read both "The Story" and "The History."

A lot of automotive heritage in the Motor City.

Re: Parting out 54 and 56s [by JP]

Sun, 13 May 2012 10:20:31 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: Parting out 54 and 56s
G'day Ross, I don't suppose you have a '56 trunk light switch available do you - mine's busted. Regards, John

1953 Packard Clipper [by packardguy53]

Sun, 13 May 2012 00:12:50 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: 1953 Packard Clipper
I'm looking for two chrome tail fins that mount on the top of the rear fenders.

Re: Spear trim clips? [by packardguy53]

Sun, 13 May 2012 00:01:30 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: Spear trim clips?
Your last picture "clip on fender by spear point" was originally spot welded on to the back side of the spear point. There were two of these on each point. When mine have come loose I've used JB Weld to reattach the bracket/stud to the back of the point, let it set for overnight and re installed. Hope this helps.

Re: to act as guardian [by Guscha]

Sat, 12 May 2012 22:40:16 -0000

Studebaker Built Packards (1957 - 58):: to act as guardian
Quote:

...regardless of the outcome...

Outcome - this wording wings my fantasy.

Salvage Finds! [by GearRat52]

Sat, 12 May 2012 22:08:31 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: Salvage Finds!
Woo! Finally got the correct size wheel for my '52 200 at John's Salvage today. The donor was a '53 Clipper, from that I was also able to get the chrome tail fins which I am contemplating putting on. Another was the taillight bezel from a '52 200 that is going to a fellow in need of one for his '51. There are 5 Packards there, that I know of. A '52 200, '52 400, '53 Clipper, '55-'56 possibly Patrician, and another '55-'56 that is for sale as a complete car. There are probably more that I just haven't been able to get to.

Man I love that place! I'm like a kid in a candy store.

'27-'28 Six Phaeton - movie clip [by 58L8134]

Sat, 12 May 2012 18:47:13 -0000

Pre-War (1899-1942):: '27-'28 Six Phaeton - movie clip
Hi

Found this YouTube clip from the movie Hollywood Hotel 1937 with Benny Goodman and his Big Band , Johnny 'Scat' Davis, Dick Powell, Rosemary Lane and Mabel Todd, lyrics by Johnny Mercer, music by Dick Whiting. It's a fun sequence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW-cHXt2abs

The phaeton looks to be a '27-'28 Packard Six, those couple of years when the cusp were gone from the radiator face. Bunch of other interesting cars including a '29-'30 Lincoln, '33-'34 Ford convertible, and a convertible sedan which looks to be a '36-'37 Chrysler product.

"Puts you behind the eight ball": When was the last time you heard someone use that expression"

Steve

Re: glass fuel bowl observation [by PackardV8]

Sat, 12 May 2012 12:47:10 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: glass fuel bowl observation
THose of u that have miscellaneous resilient ("rubber tipped") needle and seat laying around mite want to try to this test too. Based on my experience with engines in actual service any such rubber tipped needles that are NOT compatable with ethanol will have visually OBVIOUS swelling and slight distortion in about 1 year.

Re: mike dulinski [by bhappy]

Sat, 12 May 2012 02:33:24 -0000

General:: mike dulinski
Ah, yes...the infamous 'Packsler'

Re: Fueling 55-56 Packards [by 55PackardGuy]

Sat, 12 May 2012 00:45:28 -0000

V-8 (1955-56):: Fueling 55-56 Packards
Riki,

Around here, at least so far, you don't need to do anything special if you've got an old car with the original fuel setup. Just pull up to that gas pump with the big snozzle and fill 'r up.

Re: Keeper of the Flame ('42, Tracy, Hepburn, various Packards) [by su8overdrive]

Sat, 12 May 2012 00:07:19 -0000

General:: Keeper of the Flame ('42, Tracy, Hepburn, various Packards)
Yeah, can't count the times we've seen a big old touring or expensive car fly off a cliff, but the car rolling over and bouncing off the rocks on the way down is a '50 Chevy.

But somehow, doubt they'd crack up a '38 or '39 Darrin for the opening scene of a 1942 movie. And i'd love to see a video and/or close-up stills of that funeral scene mentioned above.

Re: Old Post Cards and Mics Stuff [by randy berger]

Fri, 11 May 2012 23:58:16 -0000

General:: Old Post Cards and Mics Stuff
ALPS vehicles consistently bring big money - even when their paint has been rendered ghastly. I don't see the fascination myself, but then what do I know?? I'm just an old toy train collector.

Re: Sad (crusher) story- WARNING! [by portlandon]

Fri, 11 May 2012 23:20:58 -0000

General:: Sad (crusher) story- WARNING!
The sad part is that after being crushed and sent to China, it will return back to the USA as a patio furniture set, or maybe a Wheel barrow.

Like Dave said, You can't save them all.

Re: Backup light 22nd Series [by joeyearl]

Fri, 11 May 2012 22:31:44 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: Backup light 22nd Series
OD, that sounds about right. I thought about using some king of adhesive, but then changing the bulb becomes a problem for the average owner (if I ever sell it).

Re: How to sell car these days [by bkazmer]

Fri, 11 May 2012 21:04:44 -0000

General:: How to sell car these days
part of that proofing - have some understanding of your car's model and bodystyle. Your 1948 Eight touring sedan with 288 shouldn't be advertised as a lwb limo with its original V8 engine. Not a made up example. The credibility of all your other info on the car takes a hit. If someone else is going to be fielding calls, write stuff down for them. Another real example: How many doors? I don't know.

'35 - '36 120 Parts Needed [by MichaelF350]

Fri, 11 May 2012 16:44:05 -0000

For Sale, Wanted, Trade:: '35 - '36 120 Parts Needed
Need to start over after fire in engine compartment. Need one set of horns from '35 893, the front chrome louvres for the hood side panels or a complete hood assembly, the rear hood anchor,

Please reply via email: michaelandaudrey@juno.com

May 26, 2012 --Packard Auction, Lawrence, Ks. [by D.V.E.]

Fri, 11 May 2012 16:42:33 -0000

Shows and Events:: May 26, 2012 --Packard Auction, Lawrence, Ks.
see link for details on the 15 Packard autos being offered--
http://kansasauctions.net/elston/05/26.php

Seller: Raymond F. Barland Estate / Auction Note: Day of Auction inspection or by appointment only!! Brian Barland (785)840-7464

1. 1956 Clipper Super 4 dr. Model 5642 auto, Torsion Level 2. 1955 Clipper Custom 4 dr. Model 5562-8623, White Jade, Auto
3. 1955 Clipper Super Panama 2 dr. Model 5547-2369, Saphire/Moonstone
4. 1956 Executive 4 dr. Model 5672A-1335 Dover White/Maltese Gray
5. 1953 Clipper Deluxe Sedan 4 dr. Model 2662-23273 Black, Auto
6. 1952 200 Deluxe Sedan 4 dr. Model 2562-14956 Maroon, Standard
7. 1956 Clipper Super 2 dr. Model 5647-2037 Blue, Auto
8. 1953 Clipper Sportster 2 dr. Model 2697-3592 Ivory
9. 1950 Standard Eight Sedan 4 dr. Model 2392-5-39589 Spruce Green, Std
10. 1950 Standard Eigth Sedan 4 dr. Model 2392-5-44529 Blue Metallic
11. 1956 Executive 4 dr. Model 5672A-2370 Green, Auto
12. 1956 400 2 dr. Model 5687-1985 White, Auto
13. 1950 Standard Eight Sedan 4 dr. Model 2362-5-27016
14. 1953 Clipper 4 dr. Model 2662-27176 Blue, Auto
15. 1956 400 2 dr. Model 5687-1315

Mark Elston of Elston Auction Company was recently contacted by the Barland family to perform two auctions. The first auction is to occur on May 26, 2012 and the second is to take place on June 24, 2012. The plan is to sell all of the vehicles and large salvage items on May 26th and all of the remaining items including those stored within the house and accessory structures on June 24th. _from Lawrence, Ks --CITY COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA May 15, 2012 � 6:35 p.m. <http://www.lawrenceks.org/assets/agendas/cc/2012/0...

Re: dash lights on the 22nd series [by Owen_Dyneto]

Fri, 11 May 2012 15:59:40 -0000

Post-War (1946-54):: dash lights on the 22nd series
Not specifically addressing the 22nd/23rd series, but there are quite a few specialists out there already that restore instruments, both mechanically and cosmetically. A browse through Hemmings should identify a few of them.