Friends


I had a 1941 160 sedan for about 5 years that needed more help than I could afford to give to it. It was painted an attractive, plausible but unauthentic color. The original upholstery was under much needed seat covers. I spent a lot of time trying to guess what the original colors swere. On this site you will find the parts book, dealer book and dealer bulletins for 1941 . They all have color schemes but they do not re not exactly agree. . The color schemes for the open cars' paint, interior, and top are fairly specific.

The 41 and 42 Packards were available with a few "Riviera" combinations. The interior does not have the traditional wood grain and broadcloth, but interior paint , plastic and two tone interiors coordinated with the exterior paint color. I have seen this on open and closed cars.

The Orientas 120 convertible coupe is one of these. I last saw it on line maybe 8 years ago located in Illinois .

Jack Behn's 180 formal was sold to someone in Ohio, I remember seeing a picture of that , too. 39Packardsix will remember that Jack let me drive it partway to the centennial in 1999 on Route 80. It was dead silent and smooth, the only way to tell the speed was to look at the speedometer. Jack was not a slow driver.

Nils Skog's wagon has changed hands a few times. The last time I saw it was ago the Greenwich Concours about 10 years ago. I surmise it wa for sale as it was being driven a restorer who also sold cars.

I moved the 55 clipper for Rocky one time at a show. The car behaved as if it was an electric, it was absolutely smooth and silent. After Roy Beavers owned, It was sold to another member of the Eastern Packard Club , who bought a number of EPC cars and moved to Oklahoma. He was killed in an accident maybe 3 years ag0 and a lot of them were auctioned off in the last year or 18 months


Regards

John Harley

Friends


I miss Jack , too. I was president of EPC for two stints straddling the turn of the century . Jack had the red car for sale and he told me he wanted me to have it. I am not quite as affluent as Jack was. I told him I wanted it and I could buy it if he took a trailing zero off the price. For some reason he didn't take me up on the offer.

The car was originally black . The story was that it originally belonged to Lucille Ball but of course there was no proof.

Dan Malumphy worked on it and it ended up "Malumphy Red". Dan was an excellent craftsman but it took some effort to convince him to change the paint color in his spray gun.

Jack's small lathe is now in Owen Dyneto's basement .



John Harley

Bob

It's a 50 Series Chrysler. Four cylinders, two wheel brakes ( i.e dressed up Maxwell.) The giveaway for me is the shape of the headlight buckets and the radiator. The Chrysler sixes had 4 wheel hydraulic brakes..

Regards

John Harley
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Groucho

So how do the vanes on that pump look like compared to your other pump?

John

Groucho

I don't have a prewar car so I cannot be certain of this. The vanes on that pump look very feeble to me. I know Kanter spent the money to have repros made for this epumps when the cores dried up.

I have put two of their 356 pumps and for a 288 on my cars with good results. You might also check with Gould rebuilders and Merritt, they might have some some on the shelf.

It is a little effort to put one on, and I wouldn't want to do it twice because it wasn't adequate . I have had to replace a good pump because someone else tightened the belt too much. The price for rebuilding and the price for a good repro seem to be close.

Best

John Harley

Friends


I had the privilege to spend some time with Ole, but of course it was not enough.

About ten years ago I bought (with some "advice " from a well meaning friend) a 1941 160 that was very needy. Ole tracked down a lot of parts of the mundane sort that are rather hard to find, parking brake cables, suspension stops, wiper motors , spring buttons and that sort of thing. He knew where the parts were. I was desperately afraid that I would need something that he couldn't find because that would mean it no longer existed .

Ole was great fun on tours and meets. We spent a lot of time together driving in each others's cars and chewing things over. I fancy we got along well..

Getting back off the road started the ceremonies. If it was hot and early enough there were gin and tonics the deal with the thirst. Dinner for about 4 at the best nearby restaurant we could find. Ole was in charge of the drinks. starting with the famous Manhattans and Rielsling with dinner. I want to. say there were aperitifs, but darned if I can remember. Lots of good talk and friendship .

I didn't see him much in recent years because of his troubles and I was conscious of the absence . He has left us with good memories and travels with the best wishes of many.

Regards

John Harley

Wes

The brass washers can be found in the plumbing department of a well equipped hardware store.

Regards

John Harley

Friends

This is related to the 160 Woody thread but I am starting a new one so as not to muddy things further.

Stuart Blond graciously forwarded this picture to me. It is from an old Eastern Packard Club Bulletin. I remembered the car as a 160 , but it is a 1940 120 with a custom station wagon body.

It belonged for decades to Nils Skog, the founder of the Eastern Packard Club. I remember it as painted s light green . This picture was taken before it was painted that color. Afther Nils died about 20 years ago it changed hands more than once. The last time I saw it was about 8 years ago at the Greenwich Concours. tt was under the care of Byron York at the time, I think it was for sale.

The original owner had it bodied by the New Haven Body Company . He was a salesman for the Harmon Kardon radio company. The body is full of drawers and compartments for samples The lines were a little more deft than the catalog offerings , but that is a relative judgment.

I tried to find a picture of this car on the internet . There are many pictures of light green 1940 120 wagons, but none of them are this car. You will notice that the exterior door handles are vertical, not horizontal .

There ia a very good article about this car in one of the older Packard Cormorants but I have not figured out which issue it is yet

Regards


John Harley

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Custo Eight

Ok. I just looked at your pictures . If you are wiring the overdrive according to the schematic , terminals 123 are on the bottom and 456 on the top. In other words try turning turn your schematic upside down when wiring . I got caught on this once. Terminal numbers are numbered either on the cover or the base, I forget which.

John

Custo Eight

Sounds to me that the over drive is being grounded out, I suspect that your governor is the kind for a car equipped with electromatic. These governors have two places to connect. Reverse the leads or move the lead if you only have one. This should solve it. I.e the electromatic is grounded when the OD ins't and vice versa.

If this is happening and the other switches too the od are not connected, one of the wires is going to ground or there is some issue with how the relay is connected
If you have a schematic it is easily figured out. The Packard manuals and the MOTOR manuals trouble shooting routines for this


Regards

John Harley