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Re: 5699 parts questions
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Packard Filip wrote:
I am about to acquire a "project in progress" Caribbean Convertible '56. I want to know whether anyone knows about the availability of the following parts as they're from what I know so far, the hardest to find. They are nowhere to be found with the car, and I doubt I can find these here in Sweden.

First off is 469453, the solid bow which the windshield is attached to, parts book refers to it as "upper" under "rim - finishing outside". I expect this one to be quite hard to find, but I have the option of either milling or casting a new one here in Sweden. I assume the part is originally cast in zamac as the other cast trim pieces. I know that casting/milling it in brass or bronze will change the weight of it, but not by how much. Maybe best to use zamac if possible.

Then, the other two parts I've in mind so far are the dual carburetors which are both missing. So that'd be parts no. 6489090 & 6489091. Fully restored ones are not necessary but appreciated too, as long as they exist in a passably restorable form. Doubt I can find these here, and I have no clue what happened to them when the car was imported 25-30 years ago, or whether they even existed on the car then.

If anyone has these or knows where I could find them, I'd appreciate knowing it. There are also more parts to follow, however I do not know which are hard to get as of yet.


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You are describing what In the convertible business in the USA would be commonly known as a "header bow."

On Caribbeans this component is made of an alloy one step or two up from Kirksite. You will certainly want to avoid going to the extreme of casting or milling such a component. And even if you did perform such a casting or milling, you really don't want to change the metal.

Weight and balance here are extremely critical (aside from mating two dissimilar metals). Anything that would upset the weight and balance could be disastrous to the power top mechanism and overall operation. Plus you would need to fabricate not merely the header bow, but also the tack strip retainer, tack strip, seal, and latches. That's a lot!

You are better off looking for existing parts. There are indeed parts around, but it will take a lot of looking.

Good luck.

Posted on: 2023/11/22 22:12
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Re: Packard Bikes
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So. We showed you the early Classic Bicycle Era headbadge for Colson-built Packard bicycles. Now here is the headbadge design that followed.

What we show here is New Old Stock (NOS) never mounted, never drilled, never bent brass. But you can get an excellent idea of the original appearance, including colors and plating.

By the way, SOME of these were brass while others were made of aluminum. On the brass headbadges, the raised areas were nickel plated. On the aluminum versions, the raised areas were simply natural silvery look of aluminum.

Image is courtesy of Leon Dion / National Bicycle History Archive of America (NBHAA.com).

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Posted on: 2023/11/22 21:52
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Re: Interference of R/H turn signal light socket with A/C duct
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Pete '56 wrote:
The template I used for the top of dash cutouts was from the actual Packard drawing I got from the Studebaker Museum, see photo. I laid the template over where I cut the dash now and all the features match that template. The question now is "How to make it Work".


Even if the templates were accurate (and it's always a possibility they were not), I would double-check before doing cuts and installation.

Having worked for many years of my career at the OEM level of the car biz, I can assure you: specifications get changed. Often several times. Were those templates merely templates? Or final specification templates?

Furthermore, paper templates (or copies thereof) passed around all these years through machines, scanners and internet and how many hands just allow for too many bad outcomes.

Even workshop manuals get out in publication with errors in them. Usually such things are remedied with Service Bulletins. But this is just the nature of the car biz.

Again... I always check with an actual production-level car. Compare what you have with an actual system installed at the factory. Take measurements and photos. There are a bunch of Packard V-8 factory A/C vehicles still alive and breathing in this world– even in 2023.

Posted on: 2023/11/22 16:32
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Re: Interference of R/H turn signal light socket with A/C duct
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humanpotatohybrid wrote:
I'm not particularly familiar with the thermal properties of old plastic but I would think careful application of a heat gun on the relevant area with a blunt instrument to make a slight dent could work nicely. Ideally, practice on something similar first.



Wow. I can assure you that applying a heat gun and/or "blunt instrument" to these super brittle and rare Bakelite vent housings can only have one result: a bag of potato chips. Or something that looks and sounds like it.

Posted on: 2023/11/22 16:11
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Re: Interference of R/H turn signal light socket with A/C duct
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Pete '56 wrote:
I noticed the dimple" but it's on the wrong side of the vent base. Looking at my photos and your photo, the dimple is towards the L/H side whereas the socket is towards the R/H side. When I cut the holes in the top of the dash, I used the templates from the Packard drawing with the instructions on how to retrofit the car posted on this site. The vent base lays very well in the top curve of the dash. Maybe when Just Dashes redid the top pad the foam pad wasn't thick enough. I have no idea how thick the original factory pad was as the previous owner had some outfit do a real sloppy job of installing new foam on the dash top. But then again, the Clipper's didn't have padded dashes???



Ahh. Well. We know the factory didn't cut the dash-top vent holes.

The measurement is the measurement. And templates are never trustworthy in retrofits as a final and absolute gauge. Especially if downloaded from the internet.

I always say it is best to look at an actual vehicle and see how the factory did it. They couldn't have such issues. The old construction rule of "measure twice, cut once" also holds true in automotive.

A padded dash versus un-padded dash should make no difference at all. And while someone will likely argue this, it was indeed possible to order a padded dash in a Clipper or Executive.

Either way, A/C vent clearance is determined by fore/aft location of the vent. Not up or down or thickness of foam. Or pad or no pad. None of this should have an effect on the clearance.

Again, I have done several installations/retrofits of these factory air systems and never had a clearance problem. Whatever happens, I would say consider repositioning the vent rather than cutting anything just to get clearance. If things are already not clearing, cutting can only make things worse.

And remember, these Bakelite vents are brittle... old and fragile after all these years. And yes, I very well know where the clearance indentations are in the vent housings. I've had lots of these over the years. Lots.

Good luck.

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Posted on: 2023/11/21 22:10
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Re: Yet another fugitive from the C. Lewis Ablelove auction comes up for sale
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humanpotatohybrid wrote:
I will politely disagree regarding the trustworthiness of your average internet Joe in Packard-land. Packards are so obscure, that I'd be hard-pressed to remember even one apparent scam I have seen in the past two years regarding one. Scam posts for newish used cars, however, remain common.



This has absolutely nothing to do with trustworthiness or the auction company. It has to do with the bizarre weirdness of someone posting a sale with click-bate in it... and then????? NO ONE responding to the ad... NO ONE answering emails...NO ONE answering the phone because the phone listed does not work!

I'm sorry, but if nobody sees anything supremely strange about all this...WOW.

Nothing to see here, folks. Move along... move along... uhhh and don't forget to click that link!

Posted on: 2023/11/21 21:03
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Re: Interference of R/H turn signal light socket with A/C duct
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Pete '56 wrote:
Anyone who has retrofitted a '56 or '55 Senior Packard with factory A/C system run into this situation? The end of the R/H turn signal blinking light socket hits right on the lower part of the lower A/C duct. See pics. This will make it difficult to fit the rubber duct onto the vent. The only thing I can think of is to cut a notch in the rubber duct, although I would rather not do this if somebody knows of an alternative.


I have installed several 1955-1956 Packard factory air conditioning systems over the years. Never had this problem. Ever. Of course, dash top openings have to be in precise position. As in dead accurate.

Also... are you aware that there is a clearance indentation in the vent base?

Advice? Don't cut anything. Bad idea.

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Posted on: 2023/11/21 20:23
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Re: Yet another fugitive from the C. Lewis Ablelove auction comes up for sale
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Mike Chirco wrote:
I met Anthony (thats his name) at the site where the cars were in New York. I have his cell number and have talked to him several times since. Im not sure why he is not responding but I will give him a call and ask. let you know what I find out.



The cars listed in the links are supposedly at a place called "Altieri's Auto Tow" in Amsterdam, NY....

• The phone listed does not work. Try it.

• The email listed doe not give responses.

• A FB inquiry to the poster gets no response.

• Inquiries to the web site page for the tow company get no response.

So... if you have a connection to the seller and this is not a secret sale, but is real, I for one would love to get a chance to ask questions!

That's all.

Thanks.

Posted on: 2023/11/21 15:52
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Re: Yet another fugitive from the C. Lewis Ablelove auction comes up for sale
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packardsix1939 wrote:
Hi Leeedy: I was reviewing the C. Louis Ablelove auction results and this individual was using antnucci" as his username for the online auction. This individual purchased a total of 35 cars at the Phase 1 auction held in November 2021 (out of 226 total lots) and an additional four vehicles at the Phase 2 auction held in April 2022. His Phase 1 purchases included a total of eight Caribbeans (four '53's, three '54's and one '56). While he did not purchase any of the available Caribbeans at the Phase 2 auction, he was the winning bidder on the 1937 120 Dietrich Convertible sedan, that, at $12,000, was one of the auction's top sellers. Several of these cars have since turned up for sale online on either FB Marketplace or Craigslist. I am not sure why he is responding to his ads, but maybe you could contact the auction company, Collar City Auctions. Here is contact information from their website:

CONTACT US
Randy Passonno - CAGA, ISA, Licensed & Bonded Auctioneer, Principal Real Estate Broker, Certified Appraiser, Realtor, President randyp@collarcityauctions.com

Audra M. Passonno - (Associate Real Estate Broker)audrap@collarcityauctions.com

Judith M. Stewart - (Associate Real Estate Broker)
judys@collarcityauctions.com

Appraisal Department - appraisals@collarcityauctions.com

Customer Service - service@collarcityauctions.com

Auction Questions - question@collarcityauctions.com

Reserve Your Auction Date - reserveauctiondate@collarcityauctions.com

Office/Hall Locations:

MAIN OFFICE:
9423 Western Turnpike (Rte. 20)
Delanson, NY 12053

Phone: (518) 895-8150 Fax: (518) 895-8152


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Well. The problem is...

1.) The auction is lonnnnng over and done.

2.) The car auction company is not selling the cars listed on Facebook and really has no connection to them.

3.) Car auction companies almost never ever give out info on buyers of cars from previous or any auction.

4.) None of this resolves the questions of now...


* WHO posted a sale on Facebook?
• WHY is the Facebook poster not responding to inquiries about his post?
• WHY is the web page and phone number for the Facebook poster also totally unresponsive with a phone that does not work and emails that don't get answered?
• WHAT is this latest sale about if no one can reach the seller or get answers????? IS IT a real sale or a hacker's click bait?

Posted on: 2023/11/21 15:40
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Re: 1956 Pushbutton Instruction Decal
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Kiff Rule wrote:
ah - could well be. i tried to decipher what it said. If anyone happens to know of who might make a repro - please let me know.


The item in question here was not a "decal" but rather a temporary label. A sticker. A decal was a whole different thing– usually intended to remain a part of the vehicle. A sticker was not meant to be permanent with the vehicle.

Packard also affixed such peel-off temporary stickers on the ignition switches of early 1950s vehicles.

There is a fellow in Ohio who makes tons of decals and stickers for various hobby uses today. PM me and I can provide the contact info, etc.

Posted on: 2023/11/21 12:28
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