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Re: pushbutton transmission
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$25/hr + parts and materials, $40 for the eight fingers, The average job is between $300 and $400

here are the videos on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6nsZzGsiTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y1fiQnHBsU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9WC7AiFTM

Posted on: 2007/5/6 17:44
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Re: pushbutton transmission
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Well, Bob's pushbutton actuator is finished and back on it's way to GA. This one presented new challenges,as many do. Someone has been in it before, and had problems with water making its way into the unit. Their solution was to drill a series of drain holes rather than seal the unit!
The gearing had been taken apart and put back together incorrectly, not life-threatening, but incorrect. Many of the fingers had been distempered, and were not making contact with the contact segment. Look at picture #8--the grommet for one of the motor wires was missing--Well, I now replace those! There was insulation melted from the wires going to the finger-plates. I potted the exposed section of wire in rubber, that is visable on photo #16. The wire that was exposed on the top portion of the rubber sealing block could be a big problem, so I pot those in new rubber compound, as illustrated in phot #16. I cleaned his connector terminals, which were going green. the captions on the other photos describe everything else. I'll be posting videos of this unit on youtube, maybe tonight, and will give y'all the links when I do.

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Posted on: 2007/5/6 16:40
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Re: MiklDry's '56 Executive Pricilla
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Dan, sounds like you are having pushbutton troubles, amongst others. What is the system not doing? is it stuck in a particular gear? You did the two-lite test. What side lit and what side didn't (either term. 4=or/bk or term. 6=pink)
OK-re: pushbutton trouble

easy things:
check the breaker for system power and the ign. feed via the yellow wire

check the connector under the dash, make sure the two connector halves are pushed all the way together, make sure all individual brass connectors are pushed all the way into the plastic connector body.

check for power coming out of the pressure switch with the key on and the engine off

If it's not any of these, $20 says it's inside the actuator in the fingers. If so, follow the directions in the auto-lite manual for removal, but don't remove the unit, just get to where you can see/fix the fingers.


hint: it's always the fingers

Posted on: 2007/5/5 10:19
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Re: Throttle Springs
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Coot, whare'd you set them sprangs? I kant finem nowheres

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Posted on: 2007/5/1 21:14
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Re: Fuel filter element
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PV-8, I have cleaned those ceramic fuel filter elements by blowing compressed air in the opposite direction of the fuel flow (from the inside out) and gotten them quite clean. I used to work at an electronics manufacturing company that had an ultrasonic parts cleaner, for removing flux from circuit boards. I used to clean my ceramic filter element in that cleaner and they came out looking like new!
At that time I had a situation on my hands where my gas tank was quite rusty inside. I was getting a lot of fine rust particles in the pores of the filter element, which was doing its job nicely. What I didn't know was that my lower chamber of my fuel pump was filling up with the BIG rust particles, so much so that one day I couldn't get the car to go more than a mile without conking for lack of fuel. I took the fuel pump apart and the bottom chamber of the pump was filled with brown rust chunks, it looked just like the basket of a coffee maker before you dump it out. I took this to mean that I also had to do something with the tank. After having the tank re-nu process everything got better in a hurry, no more conking out and I didn't have to clean the filter elements as often.

Posted on: 2007/4/23 4:18
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Re: pushbutton transmission
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I just tried it and it worked

Posted on: 2007/4/11 18:50
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Re: pushbutton transmission
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Well, I did it--I finally joined the youtube generation and put my first video up. It's a pushbutton actuator I rebuilt for a customer last fall, in final test mode on my test board.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCTxkx93h8c

Posted on: 2007/4/11 13:59
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Re: Packard employees question
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My region, Motor city Packards did that project.

Posted on: 2007/4/11 8:44
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Re: Packard employees question
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Owen Dyneto--Yes, and I bought most of those reprints from those clubs and was darn happy they had gone to the bother of reprinting them for such a limited audience. Time has marched on, this thing called the internet has enabled people across the globe who have Packards, or fallen into one through an inheritance the ability to find out about the car, its care and feeding and the social network (read "club") devoted to it, many whom are isolated from the greater old car world we all are in.
The picture reproduction quality of many of the reprints was limited by the technology of the day. With my $50 Hewlett-Studebaker scanner I can scan my original literature to a quality that never exsisted in those reprints. This is one case where the technology has improved things for the owner/restorer. I wish the PAC would oublish, either on paper or over the internet their particular version of "correct" for my car, and any other Packard model they judge. Follow the example of the Lincoln club, take the parts book exploded diagrams and put legends and arrows pointing to everything in the illustrations stating "body color", "Matte black" "silver cad plating" etc. I'd let go of $50 for that, if it remained contant and prevented me from having to re-paint parts after the restoration.

Posted on: 2007/4/10 20:24
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Re: pushbutton transmission
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BH--I make the contact fingers myself, I made a tool to bend that special shape, and the tinning that is visable in my picture #6 is vital to a good bond. I make the fingers, Sandy Chirco does as well, but I would not advise attempting installation unless you are a V-8 owner with crackerjack soldering abilities. The dependability of the whole system is dependant on the integrity of those eight joints, especially the outer two, the fingers that go to the relay coils. I tend to get a little single-minded about these things, but the (almost unservicable) location that the actuator goes in demands that everything be right, or you don't have a reliable car, and I am against that!
I'll post more pictures as I go on this job.

Posted on: 2007/4/10 18:41
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