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Re: Help ID hood and ornament. Clipper?
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Makes sense, now. Oh, well...presume Ike's staff would have ordered him one off the assembly line rather than a buy back off the lot and would have gone for the longer wheelbase, but we got what we got and we'll use it. Perhaps Ike's staff would have thought the shorter wheelbase was more practical on narrow, winding British roads? Well, that's my story and I'm stickin to it.

So, presuming the two hoods for two different wheelbases of the same model would have had different hood ornaments. The one I have pictured above will not fit correctly on the short hood, even if I added the trim strip down the middle. The curve at the nose is different and the mounting holes are different.
So need to find correct hood ornament for short hood 42 if it will fit the short hood 47 mounting holes.

Here are the promised pics of what I have. Thanks for the info so far.

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Posted on: 2019/10/27 11:04
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Re: Help ID hood and ornament. Clipper?
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The hood and fenders were the same shape for all models thruout those years but the fenders and hood were shorter on the 120" wheelbase cars because of the wheelbase differences

So, was there a difference in the pre war Clipper and the post war Clipper in wheelbase? Is the longer hood I have as a spare a possible 42 Clipper and the actual car is a 47 Clipper and the hoods will not interchange.

I'm not trying to fool anyone after restoration, we are leaving the original data tags, but we have a 42 grill that will bolt right on and if the only visual difference on the hood is the center trim strip and hood ornament, maybe we can make the 47 hood resemble the 42. Or, is this longer spare od with the hood ornament shown above an entirely different model? pics to follow.

Posted on: 2019/10/27 8:18
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Re: Help ID hood and ornament. Clipper?
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Hmmmm….
I'll have to go out in the morning and take a photo of this hood. It is identical in shape to my 47 Cliper, but longer and has the hood ornament shown above.
If I understand 127" wheelbase cars, it was 1951 and later 300 series which has a hood very unlike the early 21 series Clippers.
I'll post a photo in the morning.

Thank you for the links.

Posted on: 2019/10/26 19:31
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Help ID hood and ornament. Clipper?
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Starting to research our 47 Clipper restomod that we will do as a 42 Clipper military staff car. The hood that is on it, I believe to be correct has no hood ornament, but 4 rectangular square notches in the hood for one to go. Looks like to holes for a trim strip up the center of the hood.
The extra hood that was given to us with this car, when laid on the hood opening is about 6" longer that the 47 Clipper, but the same width and shape, so close. It has this hood ornament on it.

The hood is in good shape as is the hood ornament, but I can't make it available for sale or trade until I know what it is from.

And, I Google a 47 Clipper hood ornament, but can't come across a nice photo of just the ornament so I know what to look for to complete my hood.

Any direction greatly appreciated.

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Posted on: 2019/10/26 18:11
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Re: 47 Clipper Data Tag Questions
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Thank you for this. It is a starting point. What is the embossed longer number on the upper cowl passenger side? Not on a tag, but stamped into the metal from the interior side of the cowl.

Posted on: 2019/10/23 14:14
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47 Clipper Data Tag Questions
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Got two data tags on the cowl of the Clipper. They read, in part: Body Number: 2112-22185
Vehicle Number: 2112-22635

So, it is my understanding tha the body and chassis style is the Deluxe Touring Sedan. Are the second numbers the "erial" numbers of the body and chassis? The numerical order in which they were assembled? Is it common for these numbers not to match?

And, have not gotten ingine number yet, but does the engine number appear anywhere on these tags? Is there such a thing as a numbers matching Packard? And, if so, where do these numbers match?

I'm getting ready to register the car on this site and want to provide the correct info.

Thanks in advance.

Posted on: 2019/10/23 10:40
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Re: 47 Clipper Battery 6v size?
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Sounds like I've got the OE battery tray and hold down. Here is photo of hold down and the measurements are similar to what you have posted. approx. 4 1/2" by 20" I have several group 2 batterys around the shop and will put one in to be sure. Just not used to all the extra room on the top hold down tray. I guess this would allow for different length batteries to be used without modifying the hold down tray.
Relieved that I can used the group 2 as that is what my WWII jeeps use and I can now jump one from the other if I have to. I am sure I will install a hidden disconnect and use trickle chargers when stored.

Thanks to all who responded.

Robert Brough
Winston, GA
Vehicles of Victory

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Posted on: 2019/10/19 8:15
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Re: 47 Clipper Battery 6v size?
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I'll take and post some images tomorrow. Should have done it first. Interesting about the military battery...could be what we are finding. A black out light cover that fits the OE headlight bucket, but not a curvered sealed beam. A small kerosene fuel tank with some tube connections, shut off and filter, and a prime pump handle and flue opening instruction, like some sort of engine heater or accessory rear compartment heater, etc. And the OD green canvas winter grill covers...this is looking more and more like a military buy back car.
Need to find data plate or military property tag to confirm. No USA numbers under hood that we have found yet.

Posted on: 2019/10/17 3:03
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Re: 47 Clipper canvas radiator covers and brush guards?
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OK, the canvas appears to be a type of winter cover, military or Bubba created. We found a blackout light cover in the parts, so we are thinking this is a former buy back military staff car. Although the time frame doesn't add up...anyway ….
what about the heavy chrome plated rear and front bumper add on pieces? Not drilled to hold lights or license plates. Any ideas on those?

Posted on: 2019/10/16 16:33
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Re: 47 Clipper Battery 6v size?
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Hmmmm….
I guess I failed to mention the year of my Clipper. It's a 47 and the battery tray and hold down are about 7" wide and almost 24" long. So a group 2 would take some cobbling and if I were going to do that and make any old battery fit, I'd make something more easily obtainable to do that.

https://www.autoparts2020.com/deka/commercial-battery-dek-93eh

This is a group 3 battery

Posted on: 2019/10/16 16:26
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