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Re: Back to PI.com...Big Kev's move & also my bucket list dream... possible?
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R Anderson
With my increasingly Swiss-cheese memory, I had completely forgotten that we'd posted regarding this very same Six Cyl Transplant subject back in anno 2010, wherein some very interesting and helpful responses, not to mention some most intriguing speculation (not that that is at all unusual around here!) were to be had. So... the Dream still lives.

http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6202&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&type=&mode=0&start=0

It would seem, then, that the 1940s era Packard Six would fit length-wise. The differing factor now in 2017 is the absolute necessity of adding a pre-Gear Start UltraMatic, due to advancing age, what with dodgy knees and hips and such. I wonder if a Packard Six has ever been adjoined with ANY automatic?

Posted on: 2017/2/3 10:52
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Re: Back to PI.com...Big Kev's move & also my bucket list dream... possible?
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Agreed, it'd be much about having proper gearing, however it might not need radical change, as mentioned am a rather sedate driver... it'd likely never go over 50 or on a highway, we prefer slow pottering around on local side roads in our village and out in the beautiful countryside, and it's only 2 miles from our house out to the "sticks".

We don't do shows or old car meets, we just like to have fun driving around in the cars of our youth (which was a long time ago!) Even our daily driver is an old '79 Electra.

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Posted on: 2017/2/3 9:42
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Re: Back to PI.com...Big Kev's move & also my bucket list dream... possible?
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Thanks for the kind welcome back folks!
I've always felt this forum to have by far the most gentlemanly (is that even a word?) demeanor of the many car groups I have patronized, most appropriate and quite in the true Packard mold, and a great incentive to once again be a Man That Owns One!

Intriguing idea Steve, would the front clip of a 55 or 56 bolt up seamlessly to the 54 chassis? I must say, though, that one of the things I really enjoy about the 55/6 cars is their wonderful jewel-like dashboard, something that Packard obviously gave a lot of thought to. The dash has always been a high priority for me as one spends a lot of time looking at it!

The wonderful Torsion-Level also has a great appeal. Probably be easiest to convert just the engine & trans. And am a big fan of the simple rugged and torquey 245 Six engine, just hoping the shorter (than straight 8) Big Six will fit the V8 space, certainly the 288/327/359 would be way too long. No idea if the Six will fit or can even be adapted to the Ultra, but hoping Ross M. or ? will know... I know Ross has in the past done some fairly innovative Packard modifications and adaptations.

There were 6's in 47 Clippers as cabs, and weighed only 150 lbs less than a 55/6 Clipper, so guessing it'd be fairly satisfactory power-wise, and I mainly potter around locally at below 50mph anyway. Automatic, though, is a must because my creaky knees and legs are no longer up to clutching, a chief reason we reluctantly let our lovely turquoise Clip go, luckily to a v good home.

Have located an apparently solid and worthy donor/project car, but will hold off on details if & until it appears to be a feasible and workable solution. Yet another Clipper Deluxe!

Posted on: 2017/2/2 15:02
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Re: Back to PI.com...Big Kev's move & also my bucket list dream... possible?
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Thanks! What a beauty! Be a shame to yank that fresh 352 for a lowly 6 though... I must be crazy to want to do that! lol I think I've never got over my '37 Dodge.

Posted on: 2017/2/1 20:52
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Re: Interesting connection
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I agree with Fred, ECAnthony, et al, the more prestigeous and desirable the car, the more the dealer becomes a destination, people with means want the car regardless, and the convenience factor diminishes. Koenigsegg has, what, maybe 16 dealers ...worldwide!!?, yet has increasingly prospered and lived on their lust factor for almost 30 years now.

imho the depression and lack of market is what killed P-A and Duesenberg, not the dealership location/convenience.

Posted on: 2017/2/1 20:43
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Back to PI.com...Big Kev's move & also my bucket list dream... possible?
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Been away for a few years since selling the stick shift '56 Clipper Deluxe and many years since the '56 Pat, now having some posting problems, has the protocol changed?...

OK, seems to work OK now... maybe post took too long and I got kicked off? Will submit and add on by editing.

Nice to see many familiar folks are still here.
And BigKev has moved to Kold Kountry! ... wow! Big change, hope you are adapting Kevin!

Closing in on 70 maybe it's time to get some of the 'bucket list" stuff done. For me one biggie is to own the Packard I'd have made if it were up to me. That would be a '55 Clipper (slightly smaller), with the drive-train of my preference: a Packard Six with the refined/reliable '53-54 UltraMatic.
My questions:

1. would the Six mate with that vintage of Ultramatic?

2. would it fit in the chassis/body without major modifications? Pedal assembly, linkages, much to figure out in any event.

Finding the right body and drivetrain components might be a challenge as well, but demand seems fairly slight compared to many 50s cars, so maybe not too difficult?

Constructive comments & opinions?
best to all from Roger in NY
PS: my former stick shift Deluxe:

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Posted on: 2017/2/1 13:33
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Re: Various CL Pickings
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in the 1960 Slant Six Valiant to be exact.

Posted on: 2016/2/26 14:27
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Re: I need some serious advice about buying a Packard
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Much good advice here!
I'm a retired teacher and a long time vintage car owner. Like you, my Dad taught me nothing about cars because to him, a mechanical engineer amazingly, a car was for transportation only, and he'd rather play golf, so he never did so much as change oil. Even as a little kid I loved cars but to him there were merely an appliance. He discouraged me when I had a chance to buy a 2 seater T-Bird in High school, at a very reasonable price! After college and in my 20s I drove a 5 yr Volvo but decided I wanted a really old car with some character, so bought a nice looking '47 Olds straight 8 Coupe that was in the paper, knowing very little about it. I was lucky that it turned out to be a decent car.

As mentioned these older cars are much simpler than modern cars, and so they are great to learn on. I taught myself to work on and maintain it just by reading Chiltons and other books on Auto Repair. One I really recommend for basics is the Popular Science book: "How to Repair and Service your Own Car" by Richard Day, published before cars got very complicated. You can probably find it on Amazon. I learned almost everything I needed for most repairs from this one book. It'd have been even easier if I'd had the resources of a club, but there was none nearby at the time, nor personal computers or the Web. Now you have that specialized knowledge right here at PI.com. I loved the learning process, solving problems, and working on it was very therapeutic after a crazy day at school, believe me! 40 years later, it's been a most rewarding hobby. It isn't rocket science, you can learn any aspect of it that you put your mind and effort towards mastering.

So the bottom line is you can do this, don't be intimidated, hang in there and ask for help when needed. If it's not a daily driver there's no big pressure to fix things asap so it becomes a fun challenge and the challenges are worth it!

The best other advice I can give is stick to pre-war, or '41-47 Clipper (in my opinion just as desirable), and consider a 4 dr sedan, they are just as classic, very practical, usually cheaper to buy, and far easier to find. You should be able to find a solid decent prewar car for well under 10K if you are patient, and a club will have the best contacts. Get a running car with solid body (get a club member to help evaluate it, most love to help out) that needs cosmetics, which can be done later. You don't need correct seat covers or perfect paint to have fun, and it should be all about fun!

So have at it, and remember that all the good advice you'll need is right here, the best car group on the net! Even though I (once again) own a vintage Olds, I still enjoy reading and kibitizing here from time to time, because Packard owners are the best! Keep looking... you have to have a Dream for a Dream to come true!
cheers, Roger in NY

Posted on: 2016/2/26 13:40
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Re: Romney's selective memory
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R Anderson
Interesting speculations.
As a point of information, viz: several previous posts, it's princiPALS, not princiPLES....sorry, old teachers can't help ourselves.

Posted on: 2015/8/28 20:54
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Re: "Reynolds Wrap" alternatives?
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Thanks Howard... that stuff looks interesting, the narrow vertical stripe might look quite good if pieces are large enough to be able to be run it in a horizontal orientation along the sides. Believe you're right about stainless, it's been a long time since I had a '56 Pat; the Clipper was only a couple of years ago. Some Furys and Fords, along with a few others, had similar panels, in aluminum in their case, in the 50s, but would need large pieces to cut it from, if the right stuff exists.
Will look into this, again thanks!

Posted on: 2014/1/24 14:46
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