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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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I've used both 6V positive ground and 12V negative ground Pertronix ignitions in my '49 Club Sedan and both work extremely well with over 1,000 miles of trouble free operation on the 6V version before I converted to 12V. I attribute my good fortune with using it to the fact that it wasn't pairing it up with poor wiring and unstable generation. I had alternators on both versions and new wiring throughout. If you plan on running a typical generator/regulator setup with 70+ year old wiring, stick with your good "old" points and condensers!

Posted on: 7/9 6:54:48
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Re: Joe's '49 Club Sedan
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Howard,

The vertical AC control panel fitting in the dash was just pure luck, any bigger and it would not have fit!

I didn't notice the wires showing through the speaker grille until I took the picture! The dash has been hanging down until I competed the wiring and ducts, didn't see them. I'll stick a piece of grille material behind it. I'm going to use my cell phone with a Bluetooth speaker for a radio. I removed the lighted strip from above the switches. There are 4 operating switch positions in the original cluster: the power port (former cigar lighter), the headlight switch (pull to operate the GM switch), the starter button (push to start) and the fuel pump switch (pull to start). I'm going to have some ID tags made for them later. For now, if you look at the switches in the picture, there are 3 colored dots to help me identify what to use. Finding a USB adapter that would fit in the former cigar lighter was hard, very tight fit. I did find a single USB adapter that will work to power 12V accessories. Here's a picture of the USB adapter and the modified cigar lighter knob with the element replaced with a grommet to hold it in place when the port is not used.

Joe

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Posted on: 7/5 10:07:13
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Re: Joe's '49 Club Sedan
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Got the dash back in place and attached the hood release brackets and bolted the AC unit to the lower dash. The AC control panel with vertical slide switches fit snugly where the radio block-off plate is mounted. Just plain lucky with that! The center AC vent is mounted below the switches where the original heater controls were located. On the same panel as the AC vent, on the left is the switch for the 2-speed electric windshield wipers and on the right is a toggle switch to turn on the courtesy lights. The Autometer gauges were fitted to the original gauge bezels. On the right, a 4-gauge unit with temperature, voltage, fuel level and oil pressure replaced the non-working clock. On the left is an electronic speedometer replacing the broken original mechanical speedometer. The speedometer is driven by a GPS antenna mounted on the dash. The original Packard ignition switch is maintained but the starter is activated by a push button switch in the original switch cluster. Right and left turn signals and high beam indicators are added where the original gauges were located. Below that, are indicator lamps to show the operation of the electric fan, the electric fuel pump and the activation of the overdrive governor.

Need to re-test everything than the project can be finally wrapped up.

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Posted on: 7/5 6:30:38
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Re: Joe's '49 Club Sedan
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Howard,

here's a picture of the AC bracket. It bolts to the head where the oil filter attached with a support brace between the bracket and the alternator mount. A strengthening gusset was also welded to the lower plate.

The compressor is driven by a single wide belt with adjustment at the compressor and the alternator.

The original filter is too big to mount anywhere. Could mount a small remote filter off the head just beyond the coil but would have to use a different air filter. Not concerned since the filtration is only partial and the fact that the engine is squeaky clean when I rebuilt it, no old sludge being dredged up. Also change oil frequently.

The compressor and bracket will probably block more air flow than the original oil filter. The front-mounted electric fan runs full time. The engine has been run at fast idle while the air was being charged with no problem. We'll have to see how it does in the Florida heat with the air on.

Adding AC to a Series 22/23 is not ideal, so much original stuff in the way. If I had planned this while the car was apart, I would have probably tried a 2-belt, right-mounted compressor. That would have required figuring out what parts to used from a later '51-'54 with power steering. I took a path I thought would be easier, NOT!

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Posted on: 7/4 8:02:00
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Re: Joe's '49 Club Sedan
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Finished the under hood work now it's work on the dash to finish the AC add and 12 volt conversion. The wiring is completed and the wires are laced up with plastic ties. With the AC and the new gauges and switches there is a lot more wire. Had to add an additional fuse panel to support the AC and electric wipers. Added the defroster duct hose from the AC unit to the original defrost vents. The only problem was that the original vents were 2" but the defrost hoses are 2 1/2". Took a piece of heavy clear plastic 2" tube, heated it and slipped it over the end of the vent then put the duct hose over it for a snug fit. Cut and installed the AC dash vent hoses temporarily to check the routing and fit. It's very tight, behind the dash is stuffed! I need to come up with some support for the AC and defrost hoses then it will be ready to button up the dash.

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Posted on: 7/4 6:47:27
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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Is that bracket in the picture used to hold a manual choke cable? Can't see where the end goes.

Posted on: 7/4 6:36:55
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Re: Joe's '49 Club Sedan
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All the under-hood work for the 12 volt conversion and AC addition to my '49 Club Sedan is completed. The engine is running fine and the AC is blowing cold. Just waiting for a replacement part before putting the dash back together, the front seat back in and steering wheel back on. Doesn't look too un-original! The 2 Optimal 6 volt batteries were re-jumpered for 12 volts, added a Newport electric wiper motor, 12 volt to 6 volt electronic overdrive relay, Pertronix 12 volt ignition, 3,000 CFM electric fan, 100 amp GM alternator and the Sanden AC compressor and hoses with a custom-made mounting bracket. Missing is the oil filter and the engine fan on the water pump, ran out of room. We'll see how it handles the Florida heat without the engine fan. The original heater box and blower were replaced by the heat/defrost section of the AC unit. Can't wait for the car shows to open back up!

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Posted on: 7/3 8:01:41
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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Kevin,

It's important to maintain your intensity working on your project. Too many restoration projects as extensive as what you have started fall by the wayside when the reality of the amount of effort and resources finally sets in. Keep up with the posts and pictures of your project's progress! Good luck with the roof fix.

Tinman

Posted on: 6/29 6:52:21
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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I used a compound called OSPHO by Skyco to neutralize the surface rust on my car. Contains phosphoric acid and works good but need to follow the instructions for use! Turns iron oxide (rust) to iron phosphate which is inert.

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Posted on: 6/25 7:01:36
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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Looked like such a nice car on the flatbed. I guess rust you can see is better than rust you can't. At least you have a better ides of what you are up against!

Posted on: 6/24 8:32:38
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