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Re: How to add a PCV Valve to a 1949 Packard
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Beginning around 1966, California smog law (apparently this has been forgotten today) required a specially vented oil filler cap (and/or other similar things) which then had a flexible rubber line that ran to the engine's air cleaner. My 1959 Continentals were thusly modified.

On cars with an air pump (factory for some California cars as of 1966) the oil filler cap was not vented and a small PCV valve (or direct fitting) was placed in a valve cover and again connected via rubber hose to the engine air cleaner. Same thing was done to some cars with road draft tubes. Anything vented out of the engine therefore went into the combustion chambers rather than the atmosphere.

I had several Packards that were likewise modified by law in the 1970s in California. I'm sure some must still be out there. Many cars that were old enough, of course were exempt, but some were modified anyway... as was one of my 1956 Packards.

Imagine that smog specs for California cars 1966 to about 1976 ought to be adequate for any PCV valve one should want to add.

Posted on: 2017/9/14 18:46
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Re: Instrument Panel Dimmer Switch Problem
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Ken Hill wrote:
The instrument panel dimmer switch is not working on my '56 Clipper. It was working just fine, up to about a year ago. It is not illuminating the instrument panel. The switch operates the headlights, tail lights and parking lights. The map light also works when I twist the switch fully counter clockwise.

Attached is a picture of the switch, from behind the dash. I can't tell if a wire is missing to one of the connectors.

Any suggestions on troubleshooting is much appreciated. Also, does anyone have a diagram showing the wiring to the switch?

I'd like to get this instrument panel lights working before heading into the fall and winter seasons here in the Pacific Northwest.


Having owned a lot of old cars and a small fleet of V8 Packards over the years, the one thing that seems to be common with most of them is the rheostat for instrument panel lights stop working after long periods of not being used to dim the dash lights.

The most common malady I've discovered is that the coils and /or the contact for same become oxidized. This is especially common when the switch/fader feature is not used for long periods. One very, very easy remedy I discovered back in the 1970s was simply to cycle the rheostat back and forth about 25-30 times. The friction over the coiling usually cuts through any built-up oxidation and everything gradually begins to work again.

An even better remedy I have used over the years was a spray can of tuner cleaner or carbon tet... (used to get these from Radio Shack stores). Spray over the rheostat coiling and contact segment, cycle back and forth... and voila! Also worked wonders of Packard V8 Factory Air Conditioning main rheostat control. Same process.

Posted on: 2017/8/21 17:25
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Re: Carpet Floors Mats for 56 Caribbean Wanted
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HH56 wrote:
Not a very good illustration but here is what the 56 accessory brochure has to offer for the rubber mats. I didn't see a mention of the Car-Pets in anything I have.


Yes, the illustration here shows the two rubber mats I described. The one on the right had a color insert that showed the circle & V symbol for V8 Packards. You will also note there is mention of "choice of colors" which I believe applied only to the V8 mats which I have seen in black, gray, blue.


However, Car-Pets were also a Packard accessory for 1956 and may have been added too late to make the publication. But they did say "Packard" on the boxes with a logo and were color-coordinated.

Eventually when I find time to go through my records in deep storage I may find more info on them.

Posted on: 2017/8/21 16:54
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Re: Carpet Floors Mats for 56 Caribbean Wanted
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ssb15 wrote:
My car has the original carpet. I was interested in what floor mats look like for 56 Caribbean? Does anyone have photos of what the multicolored floor mats looked like? I would especially love to see what the multicolored car mats look like since I have multi colored paint.


"Car-Pets" were one of 3 different factory accessory floor mats offered in 1956. Car-Pets were color coordinated, but they were not multi-colored. Just one color. They came in brown, black, and gray from what I recall.There may have been other colors as well.

When my 1956 Caribbean convertible was stolen, I had a NOS set of Car-Pets in the original box in the car. They were in brown color. At one time I had several sets of these, but this was my last set and they disappeared forever.

Car-Pets were a Packard factory accessory and were like carpet on one side and textured vinyl on the other. They were held in place with special snaps that were screwed into the floor of your car. Thus they were removable for cleaning.

Today, nobody seems to recall this Packard accessory floor mat for 1956. There was also a rubber floor mat that had a color V8 circle and V symbol. I only ever had one set of these and they also disappeared. The third type of floor mat was the black rubber "Packard" ones that are fairly common today.

Posted on: 2017/8/21 15:46
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Re: Carpet Floors Mats for 56 Caribbean Wanted
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We need to define what is being sought here. Are you seeking floor carpet? Or floor mats? Two different things. There were at least three different types of floor mats as factory and dealer accessories for 1956.

The rarest of these mats (most folks today don't even know they existed) were known as "Car-Pets" and were color-coordinated to match your factory carpet and made to snap onto and over your factory floor carpeting. And yes, these were made in colors that matched all Caribbean factory color schemes.

As for floor carpeting... patterns do indeed exist and there are sources for carpet similar to original factory floor carpeting-which for Caribbean came in two main sections with smaller sections that went in strategic positions. And... if you have factory air conditioning, another piece went over the lower section of the plenum chamber/evaporator housing.

Posted on: 2017/8/19 17:41
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Re: 55/56 convertible hydraulic pump
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Owen_Dyneto wrote:
Thanks guys. Randy, yes - the pump, cylinders and pressure hoses were all replaced just before I bought the car. My original 56 Service Manual didn't have a Body Section but Howard's reference answers the question - check with the top raised and fluid level should be at the bottom of the threads of filler plug.

It seems Packard was a bit behind the times still using brake fluid in 1956, according to Hydro-E-Lectric the industry began the switchover from brake fluid to ATF in 1953.


Ford was a leader in using transmission fluid rather than brake fluid. A very wise move since trans fluid is not nearly as likely to dry out like brake fluid. Yes, if you had anything on your power top motor reservoir referencing Dexron II it has to be a modern replacement pump.

RE: brake fluid vs. transmission fluid and Packard... As for Packard being behind in using brake fluid in power convertible tops... actually, not so. GM was still using brake fluid in power convertible tops well into the 1960s. They eventually went to fully electric tops.

RE: top position for fluid check... Of course, always check fluid level with top in fully raised and latched position. Adding fluid with the top lowered will almost certainly blow out the seals in your power top ram cylinders. By the way... when that happens in an overfill condition, the fluid that squirts past your seals will end up power squirting the inside fabric of your nice convertible top... along with the accompanying stains and odors! So not something you want to do.

Posted on: 2017/8/14 22:00
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Re: Goddess of speed
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A few things not covered in this discussion, but vital to the issue:

? There were numerous knock-off Packard radiator ornaments and hood ornaments over the years. Many of them were sold on the shelves of auto parts stores at least as recently as the 1970s-80s. And these were not merely the bird ornaments.

? Many of the ornaments found today were sold as motorcycle ornaments and even as bicycle ornaments. Whizzer Motorbike Company sold an entire line of fender ornaments-some of which were based right off of car ornaments, including Packard.

? For whatever reason, no one seems to know that many of the crystal ornaments that people think are all Lalique are not. Some were made by the Persons-Majestic Company (which also manufactured accessory radiator screens for Packards in the 1920s-30s. In fact, it was Persons (so I was told by a family descendent) that added the feature of illumination under the crystal ornament to work with headlights.

? Companies like Gem out of Illinois (I have several of their old catalogues) offered amazing numbers of ornaments-many of which were very similar to Packard.

? The so-called "donut pusher" (we always knew it as "donut chaser" in the days of Packard) indeed came in numerous forms forms and there were indeed several aftermarket versions, some with no arms. Some with lighted glass or plastic wings. And there was a series of donut chaser style ornaments made for bicycles... and they appeared in catalogues in the 1930s.

? RE: Earle C. Anthony and Packard ornaments... EC had several special accessory ornaments he personally promoted. One was the elaborate so-called "peacock ornament" that doubled as a radio antenna. There was also another cast peacock ornament. Some were done for special customers. Others were done only for his upper management of ECA, Inc. One of these was a cow standing on part of its own udder and howling with the statement "And you Think You've Got Troubles?" Yes, I still have the one I got from a top ECA man in the 1970s.

? As for pedestrians and whether or not they were worried about radiator ornaments or hood ornaments...NHTSA and other organizations pushed the auto industry on these issues, not so much pedestrians. And as one who worked in the auto industry all my life, I can assure you I've seen photos you don't want to see... regarding hood ornaments and what they can do to the human body. And not merely the pointy ones. There were plenty of very lethal ornaments to go around in the industry...for a lot of years.

Posted on: 2017/7/29 19:02
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Re: 55-56 changes
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DaveB845 wrote:
I did not want to highjack the two members who each made a remark, this week, about some rather expensive, if not significant, changes between the 1955 and 1956 years. These days, the automotive accountants would riot if a manufacturer did something similar, especially in a down economy with bad press circulating around your brand.

Some of the most significant changes (and there are many more, apparent to some of you) are:

The switch to negative ground 12 volt electrics (and to almost everything it affected, including the Delco-sourced radios)
Wheel lugs and nuts instead of bolts (no more interchanging of brake drums)
Rear deck lid metal stampings for both hardtops, sedans and convertibles.
Two types of front fenders with soldered peaks on the Seniors.
Brand new front and rear bumpers.
Brand new tail lights and fenders for the Clippers/Executives (living to see another day on the South Bend Packards and countless hot rods)
Brand new dual cowl hoods without soldered pieces.
Dana made rear axles and TT differentials.
Revised front end geometry and shock absorber mountings.
Torsion Level controller packaging.
All sorts of stainless and chrome trim changes

What did not get changed that should have been:
Oil pumps with integral vacuum pump
Interior door handles and cranks that fall off

All in all, the Greatest Packard of Them All might indeed been the ten thousand or so Packards of 1956. The accountants were left with the final verdict in June 1956.


One very important thing that needs to be considered is that 1956 changes were planned long before 1956. And such changes were vitally important to a luxury car in those times. There were certainly a lot of other changes, but this was a high-end automobile in an era where much of the prestige for American cars was that they changed in design and engineering every 365 days.

Some very obvious, yet subtle changes to 1956 senior Packards were:

? V-trim on cathedral tail lights changed to red reflectorized hexagon with chrome bezel.

? Anodized mesh on instrument panel changed to new textured design.

? Instrument panel clock diameter increased in diameter.

Packard gave it their best shot.

Posted on: 2017/7/17 15:09
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Re: Lost Caribbean
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ty seaton wrote:
Does anyone know the present location of this 1956 Caribbean convertible? It was sold in Chattanooga, Tn in the late 1980's. The colors are MES. When sold, the car showed only 36,000 miles and was completly dissassembled. I know the history of this car from the time it was delivered from factory, until it left Chattanooga. Would love to talk to the present owner and exchange information about this special automobile.
Thanks
Walt


Perhaps I'm missing seeing some of this posting, but with no photo and no vehicle number, there is no way to know which Caribbean this was! What was the number? I have kept my own records on Caribbeans for many decades...

Posted on: 2017/7/17 13:21
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Re: data plate refinishing
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For data plates and refinishing, contact Jerry at Nostalgic Reflections in Veradale, WA. They have a web site. Tell them I sent you.

Posted on: 2017/7/17 13:08
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