The Most Comprehensive Free Online Reference for Packard Owners
Become a member of Packard Motor Car Information, right now! (it's free)
Login
Username:

Password:

remember me

Lost Password?

Register now!
FAQ's
Main Menu
Recent Forum Topics
Who's Online
51 user(s) are online (41 user(s) are browsing Packard Forums)

Members: 0
Guests: 51

more...


(1) 2 3 4 ... 266 »


Re: 1955-56 fender mirror
Forum Ambassador
Joined:
2006/11/29 20:35
From Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 2831
Don -

The 55-56 version could be mounted on the front fender(s) or front door(s). Refer to the factory template that Owen_Dyneto kindly provided earlier in this thread.

See my previous post #4 in this thread where the mirror (though this is the bad one I got form American Arrow) is mounted to the body of the front door - located per the factory template.

On cars with twin rear antennae, I just happen to prefer a pair of mirrors on the front fenders.

Posted on: 7/18 8:21:53
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: 1955-56 fender mirror
Forum Ambassador
Joined:
2006/11/29 20:35
From Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 2831
Howard -

Personally, I have seen far more aftermarket mirrors than OE. While may look period-correct, I have also seen plenty of other styles from much later years, but those with a rectangular-shaped head look a bit out of character to me. In either case, I see more of these cars with side view mirrors mounted on the door body.

The placement of a radio antenna may have some impact on the decision. Although the factory template allows for a mirror to be mounted on the front fender in that case, the end result looks a bit crowded (to me).

The aftermarket mirrors that are presently mounted on the fenders of my Caribbean Hardtop have a screw and joint that allows the head to be rolled left-to-right, but I'm not about to mess with that after so many years - especially since I'm gonna replace 'em anyway.

The head of the factory-issue mirror can also be rolled a bit, and having them mounted further forward on the fender increases the field of view.

BTW, my dad once told me that he did not use the factory template when locating the mirrors on the fender, but eye-balled them for best view (whatever that means).

However, he recently added that the reason he went with fender mounting was for the view through the windshield - specifically, that the wipers kept that perspective clear of rain/snow (unlike the view through either front door window). Of course, that might not be much of a consideration for fair-weather only use.

Posted on: 7/16 10:41:27
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: 1955-56 fender mirror
Forum Ambassador
Joined:
2006/11/29 20:35
From Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 2831
Quote:
It isn't always necessary to uncrimp and recrimp the bezel or edge...

Thanks for that tip, Dave.

Perhaps, someday, I will experiment on the useless American Arrow mirror that I have - if I can find someone in my area to cut the glass correctly. Then, I can proceed with rehabilitating my cores.

Sadly, trying to make a 55-56 mirror out of the 51-54 repro that I got stuck with may not be worth the effort.

P.S. -

Here's a recent post showing a repro mirror that 'bolts' on from the inside:

Re: Parts for 1955 Packard Caribbean #4

Posted on: 7/16 9:42:38
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: 1955-56 fender mirror
Forum Ambassador
Joined:
2006/11/29 20:35
From Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 2831
HH56 wrote:

Quote:
Not a terribly bad match and for only $22 my Caribbean can suffer the indignity of a repro Chevy part too. The mirrors that were on the car when I got it were aftermarket and have similar styling but the post is more slanted like Packards. No idea if they are Chevy copies but nice thing was they are real pot metal unlike so many of the plastic repros available today.

Personally, I prefer the elegant simplicity of the factory-issued mirrors for these cars, but - like many - am put off by the high price tag of repros. Yet, I just don't care for all these other mirrors, including the 'Yankee' style.

However, I've been watching these on eBay for some time:

2 NEW Exterior Chrome Door Mirrors 55 56 Packard 1955 1956 PAIR

These mirrors are a chunkier-looking than the original, and they are not exactly inexpensive, but I decided to give them a try, with the intent of using one each for my two 56 Patricians. Ordered on Thursday, they turned up on my porch this past Saturday afternoon. Though the seller is shown in Montville, NJ, tracking shows Boonton, NJ as the point of origin, which makes me think there's a connection to Kanter.

Though billed as a 'reproduction mirrors, close to the original design', I don't believe for a NY minute that these are a reproduction of the Packard mirror, but suspect they are a reproduction (or re-run from original tooling) of a long-since discontinued AFTERMARKET mirror that was clearly inspired by the Packard's design. In fact, I found a line art rendering of such an aftermarket mirror in an old J.C. Whitney catalog.

The stem/base of these new mirrors is cast metal; sadly, the head appears to be plastic at its core. The overall design also reminds me of an aftermarket mirror that I purchased from the automotive department of a now-defunct discount department store, decades ago, but had returned due to problems I had with it. Now, I was beginning to worry.

IMHO, the narrow base of the original Packard mirrors (about 5/8") is what allows it to fit in either door or fender locations. I was concerned about these new mirrors because the base measure 1" at its widest, but 1-3/16" with mounting pad/gasket. Since that pad/gasket comes taped to the base of the mirror, I went out to offsite storage for a test fit to the car(s). I was pleasantly surprised to find that this mirror fits the crown of either the door or the fender. I can't tell whether that's because of the mounting pad/gasket or the wider hollow stance of the base itself, but I was relieved.

What you can't see in the auction images is that the head is secured to the stem by a screw from the front of the stem (rather than inside the shell). While the glass might give you the impression that its smaller than the original Packard unit design, it measures 4-3/4" (same as shown in the old J.C. Whitney catalog). The Packard head measures 4-1/4". So, the viewing area is actually the same (if not a tad larger).

A plus about this new mirror is that the mounting bracket has two long slots, which should allow it to be installed using the existing mounting holes for many previously-installed mirrors.

A friend across town recently purchased a pair of repro Chevy mirrors for use on his 55 Pontiac that he claims are all-stainless and they have LED turn signals, but he paid only $75 for the pair. So, I wish the price was lower on these Packard replacements, but I have no idea of the seller's cost or desired margin. However, I do think the S&H was reasonable.

All things considered, I'm gonna keep these mirrors for use my two 56 Patricians, but (due to family health problems) probably won't be able to hang them until next year. Then, I should have a nice clear view to the rear - unlike the defective/repaired, but damaged/incorrect mirror that American Arrow sent me and refused to replace all those years ago.

Posted on: 7/16 9:31:51
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: 1955-56 fender mirror
Forum Ambassador
Joined:
2006/11/29 20:35
From Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 2831
Marston wrote: Quote:
I replaced the side view mirrors on my '55 Caribbean as the left side one would not sty in position and the right side couldmn't be moved. I replaced them with side view mirrors for a 55-57 Chevy. I ordered them from Summit Racing in 2018 for $22.

IIRC, BigKev was able to replace the glass in an original, used 51-54 mirror for his 54 Clipper by un-crimping, then re-crimping the shell. While the stem of the 55-56 mirror differs significantly from the 51-54 version, the head and its mounting are the same.

I only bring this up here because I know that, from my inspection of a couple of glass-less 'cores' in my collection, the head is retained to the stem, from inside the shell, by a screw and spring affair.

I haven't attempted the crimping work myself, and haven't found anyone in my area who can do the work, but I hope you didn't throw those old original mirrors away. They might be repairable.

Posted on: 7/16 8:33:14
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: Identification of Caribbean 2x4 Rochester carburetors
Forum Ambassador
Joined:
2006/11/29 20:35
From Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 2831
Jack -

There is another visual cue.

On a 1x4, the fitting on the end of the choke air tube connects to a threaded nipple that's cast as part of the choke thermostat coil HOUSING.

On the 2x4s, the fitting on each end of the choke air tube connects to a threaded nipple that's cast as part of the choke thermostat coil COVER, which is made of cast metal (rather than the 'plastic' cover used on 1x4s).

Posted on: 2018/11/28 13:42
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: Various CL Parts Pickings
Forum Ambassador
Joined:
2006/11/29 20:35
From Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 2831
Some of the CL postings make me chuckle.

The listing for Youngstown (OH) actually shows a location of Murrysville (PA) - east of Pittsburgh.

The listing for Meadville (PA) actually shows a location of Portersville, which is just off I-79 in Butler county, north of Pittsburgh (about 20 min from the filming location for 'Night of the Living Dead').

Of course, everybody is entitled to place their listing in any market they desire, but as shoppers we shouldn't overlook a listing merely because of where it is placed.

Posted on: 2018/6/26 6:56
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: Rear antenna pictures
Forum Ambassador
Joined:
2006/11/29 20:35
From Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 2831
HH56 wrote:
Quote:
As I recall the non Caribbean rear antennas only had chrome nuts and rubber pads or grommets at the rear.

No, the 'factory-approved' rear electric antennas that were directly mounted on the top of the rear fenders (both Jr. and Sr. Models) had a spacer (insulator) - though NOT the same as used for front fender mounting - that went between the antenna dome nut and fender. This particular spacer was not only contoured to match the crown of the rear fender, but also gave the antenna the desired angle. It did sit atop a pad/grommet (seal).

No images are available in the parts book or shop manual, but the details are listed in the Acessories section of the 55-56 parts book - see p. 287.

I look forward to seeing what documentation Randy comes up with.

Posted on: 2018/6/7 5:23
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: There has to be a freaking answer!!!
Forum Ambassador
Joined:
2006/11/29 20:35
From Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 2831
Three things needed for an engine to run: fuel, air, and spark - all at the right time and mixture.

If you want to test the fuel delivery system safely, go to an auto parts store (or even AutoZone) and pick up a marine gas tank and hook it up to the inlet side of the fuel pump and see if that (temporarily) solves the issue. You might also want to install a fuel pressure gauge, temporarily, such that you can watch it when the stalling occurs.

However, if the vehicle runs well cold and it doesn't stall until the engine warms up, keep in mind that an automatic chock, when closed, could be masking a vacuum leak. I'm assuming that you have ruled out leaking float needle/seat.

Not sure how to tell you to test/monitor a coil while driving, but the old oil-filled coils that were low on oil would overheat, especially after going uphill, due to weak or no spark.

As someone else noted, even a brand-new part can fail.

Posted on: 2018/5/14 7:51
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer


Re: Carter Carburetor
Forum Ambassador
Joined:
2006/11/29 20:35
From Western Pennsylvania
Posts: 2831
Hoo-boy, that's going way back.

In a previous post in this thread, I advised of a collection of sheets on Carter carbs that I found in my dad's old toolbox, and I did provide PDFs of everything I had that was relevant to Packards. Kev filed them with the Service Manuals in the Literature and Manuals department. This way, please.

These sheets provide detailed specifications, adjustment procedures, and a full list of service parts. I don't know what carb your car has, but I included sheets on the 643S-SA and 644S-SA used on 48-50 models and 728S-SA used on 49-50 models.

The only thing I had on a full rebuild was for the WDO for 39 models and the fuel pump for 47 and prior models (the latter in an article of its own).

Posted on: 2018/4/23 6:05
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer



 Top
(1) 2 3 4 ... 266 »




Search
Recent Photos
Random Photo
1917 Packard two-toned landaulet, back quarter collapsed, right elevation tilted up
Helping Out
PackardInfo is supported and funded by user donations. If you would to help out by either donating content, or funds to help with the upkeep and hosting of this site please EMAIL ME or click on the donate button.