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Re: Packard Trips
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Thanks for "debugging" my link Don.

Well, Mal and Chris. Yes it's very near where I live. Miller and Lavender Streets, North Sydney in fact. Had just been out to the race track at Sydney Motorsport Park.

No... not racing the Packard. Testing a friend's open-wheeler for an upcoming race meeting. Which may actually take place if the coronavirus restrictions are relaxed in time.

Many here have noted how much attention the old Packards get out on the road. I've learnt that's true. Mine attracts more happy reactions and thumbs up than my Ferrari. As my painter (walls not portraits) pointed out, you see Ferraris on the road every day but not Packards.

Have to say the Clipper is quite sprightly off the line though, with the Ultramatic slotted into "D" so it starts in a low gear.

Cheers

Brian

Posted on: 7/2 15:01:13
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Re: Packard Trips
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Goops. Sorry that didn't work! Try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct5pyk8BVMA

Cheers

Brian

Posted on: 7/1 3:26:24
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Re: Packard Trips
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Hi Guys

Here's a short clip of my 1956 Clipper Deluxe heading for home after a lengthy run about a week ago. Very amateurish compared to some of the footage previously posted, but these runs lose nothing in enjoyment. Guess who's trying to hold the phone while turning the corner? And no power steering.

This is an original right hand drive car delivered new in Australia. Here's the link to the YouTube clip https://youtu.be/Ct5pyk8BVMA .

Cheers

Brian

Posted on: 7/1 3:20:48
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Re: 1951 250 in Australia
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Hello Peter

Guess we both have the same disease, but you have more Packards than me. There's no known cure for it.

Why did Barry sell the 250 Convertible? Good question. He put a lot of work into it, and genuinely seemed to like the car. The Gosford Museum purchased it from him directly some years ago. Guess they offered more than he thought it was worth - as they did with many cars they purchased at that time.

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Brian

Posted on: 6/27 21:07:57
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Re: 1951 250 in Australia
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Well, it was sold for around US$37,000 (about A$55,000) including buyer's premium. Lot of money for a non-original LHD manual car, but quite rare and in excellent condition. Will need recommissioning after sitting in a shed at the museum for some years.

I do not know who the buyer was. Perhaps they will surface in due course. Most likely local, although bidding was online.

Brian

Posted on: 6/26 19:15:10
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Re: 1951 250 in Australia
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As expected, the price of this car is heading north pre-auction. Now around US$15,500 but will undoubtedly go higher.

Spoke with Barry Smith who restored it. He did a lot of work on it. More rusty than expected. Then sold it to the Gosford Museum.

Now being sold at auction by Lloyds, the same people who ran the "closing down" auction for the Gosford Museum late last year. This one contains more of the cars stored away in sheds in the area, but by no means all. The earlier online auction run by Lloyds looked a bit dodgy - some of the cars which reportedly "sold" for silly prices have subsequently reappeared for sale elsewhere. Looks like the sales of the three Packards were kosher, though.

As usual Lloyds are talking up some of the lots in this one pre-auction, too.

The 1951 Packard 250 Convertible is a lovely example, but non-original in a number of ways. The VPN on the repro plate is apparently correct, but the original dog-eared plate has disappeared. It may have had an engine swap for a later 9-bearing engine. Barry does not recall.

Brian

Posted on: 6/26 17:37:16
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Re: info Packard 1939, 1708, 1235-2107
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Hello again Rowan

I have just been in contact with Barry Smith. Asked him about your car.

Barry never owned it. He had yet another V12 limo more than 30 years ago. Barry does not know where Max got 2107 from, but he did help with the engine rebuild. After being rebuilt in Melbourne, it was reassembled incorrectly (pistons in one bank reversed) but later fixed and apparently ran ok.

Cheers

Brian

Posted on: 6/25 22:44:41
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Re: info Packard 1939, 1708, 1235-2107
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Hello Rowan

Have you been in touch with Barry Smith in Tamworth? I believe he owned this car before Max and may have imported it. According to my notes, Barry decided against restoring it himself because it was too big a job. I think he said he helped Max with the engine rebuild etc. He said they had some problems with that and he thought the car was sold new in Chicago (don't know to whom).

Somebody asked a question about it (1235-2107) on the AACA website in May 2019, but they did not own it. Guess they saw it up for sale at Gosford.

Cheers

Brian

Posted on: 6/25 21:47:32
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Re: 1951 250 in Australia
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Hello Mal

Yes, as Flackmaster says the car looks very well restored (and no doubt is). Typical Barry job.

If the paint colour in the old pics is original it does not correspond to the paint code on the plate, which I think was a dark red metallic (code "L" - not a Ditzler colour). Ditto the interior trim, which shows a code of "207". However, it is all leather which I think was correct for the convertibles. Barry apparently changed the 327 engine for a later one, and obviously fitted wire wheels.

Leeedy can probably pronounce judgement on the convertible roof.

It's a very attractive car, and quite tempting. Guess the price will go higher as the auction progresses, though. Right now, it must be well below restoration cost.

Cheers

Brian

Posted on: 6/25 18:01:22
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1951 250 in Australia
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A nicely restored 1951 250 convertible for sale in Australia. This car is listed in the Registry on this site as having been owned and restored by Barry Smith in Tamworth. In excellent condition, LHD, manual with O/D, with a few mods such as wire wheels. Paint colour is not original. Plate looks like a reproduction. Presumably the convertible hood is new.

For sale by auction at https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/LotDet ... aspx?smode=1&lid=2277762. Bidding currently at about US$14,000.

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Posted on: 6/25 3:31:30
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