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Re: Recommend Pictorial Book Packard Clipper
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The Dawes "The Packard 1942-1962" book is probably as good as any of the general Packard books and better than most you will find with info for the Clipper. It has a chapter with 9 or 10 pages of features and photos plus the added numbers and model content in the appendix. The book is out of print but there are currently some copies on ebay at reasonable prices. Here is a link to a quick review on the site bookshelf section. The book is listed near the bottom of the page. http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/BookShelf/

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Re: Recommend Pictorial Book Packard Clipper
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Unlike Hollingsworth's 40 book or Bob Neal's 48-50 and 51-4 books, to the best of my knowledge there is no single source book covering the 41-7 Clipper in great detail. There are some Clipper photos in the 48-50 book and also a few photos are in most of the other general interest Packard books but nothing that would delve into a great amount of detail.

No 41 but there is a 42 Clipper owners manual on site you can download. Since the Clipper was a late intro it is not covered in the regular issue 41 data book but there is a 46 data book you can download which would have most of the same info as the 42 Clipper. Regress Press in their ebay listings offers a reprint of the 41 Clipper data book which was kind of a supplement to the other book and covers the specs and differences from the 41 conventional bodies. While I did not look to check all the Regress offerings, if you don't find originals on ebay they might have some reprints of 41-42 Clipper sales brochures too.

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Re: Revulcanizing Transmission Mounts
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Options are probably limited but Steel offers the service by sending in your old mounts https://www.steelerubber.com/motor-mount-service-30-0315-11 and Kanter has exchange mounts sold in pairs which he has placed in Gr 5.16005 listed right after the Gr 3. trans parts. https://www.kanter.com/packard/pac-120.html If current, Kanters price for the exchange pair is less.

At one time Max offered the products in Steele's Packard catalog at a slight discount from published prices but I don't know if that is still happening or if the vulcanization service would be included.

Posted on: 9/18 14:26:10
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Re: Packard (?) Hood Ornament ID Help Needed
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Believe that is what is commonly referred to as the "Egyptian" ornament which was an option for the 23rd and maybe 22nd series. http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/mod ... id=208653#forumpost208653

There is a large photo showing various Packard ornaments over the years somewhere on site where I believe it is shown and it is also well covered in Bob Neals book on the 48-50 Packards.

Posted on: 9/17 15:34:27
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Re: 38 110 Business Coupe
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Other than the engine number anything stamped in steel or on the Packard frame was stopped sometime in the late 20s era. By the early 30s it seems to be the engine number was stamped on the engine and VN was only on the separate patent plate.

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Re: 38 110 Business Coupe
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38 used a one year only decal for the VN information and apparently those did not hold up well at all. From all that has been posted the decals seemed to self destruct and disappear over the years. The fact that one was painted may be the only reason it is still on the car.

Perhaps if the paint is not too thick an alternative light source and varying angles looking at the decal might be able to bring out the numbers but if not, unless there is some original paperwork available there is no other place to look or any way to retrieve the number. The motor number should be stamped in the usual place and some states did use the motor number to register by. Without paperwork, today that number would only verify if the engine was the correct one for the car and might not necessarily be the same engine the car originally had.

Posted on: 9/17 10:35:05
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Re: Pesky Patrician Wiring Troubles
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A couple of possibilities. The body loom goes down the left side floor, into the trunk to the left tail light area. It continues in a section of loom that goes across the trunk rear floor in a sort of trough just in front of the vertical panel below the trunk lid. The loom is vulnerable to foot damage in a couple of spots across the floor and objects have been known to fall in that trough and wear thru the insulation as well as worn or missing grommets and rusted holes where the wires exit to the license lights. Loose objects in the trunk slamming into the light sockets and mashing wires at the tail lights are also a possibility. All have been known to cause problems in that section of loom resulting in intermittent issues with the lights and fuses.

The body loom where it exits the area behind the left kick panel and is clamped to the floor can get worn or damaged by continued foot pressure and also a round connector under the left dash or just inside the left kick panel space which connects the main loom to the body loom has been known to have terminals back out and short to the body metal or corrode and cause problems when conditions are just right. Problems with some rear 55 cigar lighters being loose in the socket and shorting have also caused intermittent blowing of the body fuse.

On the reverse light, with the key on do you have power on the green wire with white tracer at the neutral safety switch? There has been a question on where that power actually comes from. Diagram shows it fed off the heater fuse but IIRC, another poster said his came from a different fuse so just verify if there is power to the switch. Sometimes the fuses in the Packard holder develop corrosion issues and while the fuses look good they actually are not passing current. If the power is present at the switch then when reverse is selected there should be voltage going out the dark green wire where it then goes to that round connector behind the left kick panel and then out the body loom to the reverse lights. If it does not get thru the switch, because the switch sections activate at different ends of shift lever travel sometimes the adjustment can be fussy to have both the neutral section and the reverse section work properly. If there is anything in the shift linkage which is restricting the full lever travel when going to reverse the switch may need to be fudged a bit.

Posted on: 9/17 9:20:35
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Re: Differences in 41/47 Deluxe Clipper Eight
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IMO, you would be better off keeping it as a 47 for resale if nothing else. Trying to make it a prewar staff car would just make it another obvious fake of which there have been several.

Finding the prewar grill and reverting some outside changes should not be that big a task but those who know Packards would spot the harder to change differences such as the dash and obviously the numbers right away. Without proven documentation or a buyer who just absolutely had to have your particular car I would expect you would take a financial hit when you try to sell although as was mentioned there are people who it would appeal to.

Completely agree about the interior if you do go the prewar route but strongly suggest it be listed as a tribute for a 42 because of the dash. Packard did not build that many prewar Clippers and since they are a desirable model there are not too many decent parts cars sitting around. Mechanically many parts carried over and were used for several years on all the models so are not that horrible to find but depending on what trim is needed many items are one year and some even one model only. Parts chasing for interior and some trim items to try to make it a prewar Clipper could be very interesting and expensive.

Posted on: 9/16 7:45:55
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Re: Differences in 41/47 Deluxe Clipper Eight
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Unless the entire front clip has been changed, with the wide grill spacing and the bumper extensions I would say that is a 21st series 46-47 model. If it is a 21st series the numbers on the patent plate located under the hood and screwed onto the cowl sort of in front of the driver will start 16xx-xxxx for a 46 or 21xx-xxxx for a 47. Prewar cars would have a 14xx-xxxx for 41 or 15xx-xxxx for 42.

Posted on: 9/15 17:52:23
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Re: Rear Window Shade for '34 R/S Coupe
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If you have some of the pieces you might see if they look anything like this. I remember shades from the 50s and 60s that had a mechanism that was similar. If I recall the little pawl piece attached to the roller needs to be very free so when raising the shade it is kicked out and then centrifugal force holds it away from the notches on the center pin and also being free it can fall down and hold the roller when you slow down and stop the shade in a certain position. If something is missing possibly a modern shade could be purchased and that mechanism would fit in the hole in the original roll and be hidden well enough. https://home.howstuffworks.com/home-im ... ow-to-repair-windows4.htm

Posted on: 9/15 16:21:42
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