Big mistake PackardDon from Terrebonne, OR.... was directed to Pacdon from Hagerstown MD who also commented here.

Names can be tricky, was in my early 20's sitting in a dentist chair and the pretty assistant was just too sweet so I asked her to lunch... she replied back her last two boyfriends were both named Randy and she'd better pass. Stay classy folks.

Ramblin Randy

Is there a go to reference page with a listing of all the years and models of Packards..? When I need to do research I usually go to Wikipedia and they "usually" have a decent flow chart of years and models.

PackardDon, I'm holding your very nice Packard Tools ID Guide in my hands and it notes the #351257 bumper jack came with 1800, 1801 and some 1803 Packards. Here in this discussion you note the #351257 came with the 110 and 120 Packards. To a long time Packard fan I'm sure this all makes sense... for me I'm sifting thru it and taking notes working to stay with the conversation.

A family tree styled reference page would be nice. I do have a collection of Hollander Salvage Yard interchange books and they have a nice make/model breakdown in the index.

Thanks for all the help everyone...!

Ramblin Randy

>> Neither, I just bought a 2ton bottle type screw jack at Napa and used it <<


Somewhere out there... is a Rambler Station Wagon with a Packard Jack in it that doesn't belong there. Wagon owner Jimmy swears it's a original but confesses under pressure he bought the wagon off some Grateful Dead roadies.

I tracked the roadies down, they admit up front their memory is somewhat of a foggy soup, rolling their eyes one of them thinks they pulled the jack from a parted out 50's Studebaker Truck but the guy with the truck owned a Cadillac Dealership and adored Cadillacs, but Caddy Joe didn't adore his wife enough so she divorced him taking all the Caddys, leaving him with a rust-bucket Buick 88. Not to change the subject but I saw a guy on eBay this week tried to sell a common Buick 88 jack but it's really a even more common Toyota jack... what a mess.

The roadies got sidetracked with the word "dealer" and forgot how the conversation started. Does our story end here HECK NO. I could Ramble on and on about jacks all day... but in the interest of peace and tranquility I'll just leave here today with words from the heart:

All over the fruited plains there are dusty old jacks in barns and sheds, misplaced in the wrong trunks, and yes up for sale with the seller swearing to you that "up" is really "down" and this Metropolitan jack absolutely fits your Packard...! With years of research piling up, it appears to be my calling to publish a ID Guide for old car and truck jacks all in the effort to help these wayward jacks find their way back home.

Laugh Hard, Hang Tough, Lend a Hand
Ralmbin Randy


Disclaimer: All names are fictitious and my stories greatly exaggerated... but I really do own a 65 Rambler Wagon plastered with Grateful Dead stickers.

The #351257 jack is a bumper jack that lifts the bumper.

From 1938 thru about 1941 many major automakers were using these "pole jacks" that were either operated with a screw post as seen here, or they used a friction pole setup. The Cords used a near similar jack that is EXTREMELY rare. Rare because the jacks were worthless in lifting the heavy cars and were tossed.

I've been in corespondance with Mr Reedy who co-wrote the Packard Tool Guide. He tells me most of the 351257 jacks were tossed because they just didn't do the job. Mr Reedy tells me he's owned two 1940 Packards and both cars came with this jack 351257 in the trunk.

As someone who has gathered over 700 photos of old jacks... I've only seen one of these 351257 jacks on eBay, and have never seen any posted in online discussion. And I've never seen one of these jacks at Hershey either. A rare bird ?

As far as the 1941-42 rim jack with the matching jack stand... I'd rather run with scissors blindfolded than use one of those widow maker death combos...!!!

( note that the 316584 jack uses a folding handle as pictured by JoeSantana )

Which one of these OEM correct jacks are in the trunk of your car ? Both examples pictured I matched up with the Packard Tool Guide published by Reedy & Shaub.

Barry.... I collect old jacks. Pictured is just one day's hunt, as I have more at home trust me. For now I'm going to chill with my 1965 Rambler Wagon and 1986 Honda Spree Scooter LOL.

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Took your advice Owen and kept it original. Just posted the jack for sale in the flea market section of this nice website.

Found a unique jack at a flea market this past weekend. It's a Packard jack, and at first look I was convinced it was originally painted with black paint. When I ran my thumb across the black paint on the jack, magically the Packard blue began to reveal itself. The more I rubbed ( felt like I was rubbing down a magic genie lamp ) the more the jack turned from black to blue.

My question is what is what should I do with the jack ? Is it preferred to leave it original since there's no rust to distract. Or should I media blast the whole setup and paint original colors ?

I've been collecting old jacks for about 10 years now. Am also working up a photo ID Guide for old jacks of all makes. If anyone has any unknown jacks lay'n around the barn I'm happy to "try" to ID the jack in exchange for permission to use the photos. Just send me a IM. And yes, I have a copy of the wonderful Packard Tool Guide... one of the authors lives on the other side of town and we talk jacks when the occasion arises.

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This new show surpassed my expectations this weekend...! There were some 25-30 vendors on the field. Located on the grounds of the local VFW the volunteers from the post were super nice and very suportive, and their pulled pork samiches were quite tasty. Local business was also very suportive as each vendor was given a pass ($26 value wow) to see the local cave and car museum in Luray. On Satruday people were walking around handing out doughnuts ( still warm freshly made ) that were as good as any doughnut you'll ever find. Tip to Dennis who's store makes the doughnuts... you better make more next year... and I'm preordering a dozen.

To quote one of the attendies: "This is a real show, no crap, all parts"

Hoping for a better crowd next year as attendance was very light. On the otherhand we the vendors made the effort. Myself.... for starters skipped 2 days of employment. Woke up at 1am Friday, unpacked my enclosed hauler that was loaded with hardware, and then re-packed the trailer with every prewar part I could find. At 6am then drove 2 hours to Luray in order to be set up bright n early on Friday. Vendors drove in from as far as Florida, Alabama and Pennsylvania, and with a good showing we did our part. Next year it's your turn, you the buyers, to show some support and make the effort. Much to see and do in the Shanadoah Valley, the mountains and fresh air are worth the drive.

(PS One parkardinfo member did stop in and we were thankful)

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I'm packing ALL my prewar stuff right now, just sat down for rest.... hope'n I have the energy to dig out the large box of 6v headlamp bulbs in deep storage. Box of old door/window handles that have been in deep storage never been to a swap. Some old tools.

I have some early Packard jacks if any one needs one, IM me and I can bring some.

I'm told some vendors are onsite tonight, some arriving Thursday, and many including myself will be there early Friday at the crack of dawn...!!!