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Re: HELP! Reverse gear NOT working on 47 Clipper
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Thanks guys for all the helpful replies.
This 1947 Clipper is not registered Here on PackardInfo.

The overdrive is not engaged. I think it is disconnected at the solenoids.
This Clipper is my brothers in MO.
I am in SD, so Iíll pass on your ideas.
I havenít been to Missouri since the pandemic.

Iíll get some photos and register his machine.

You have been so helpful in my 12 years of Owning my 1941 Clipper.

Iíll restart our blog soon.
Hillbilly Packards:

http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/mod ... id=154112#forumpost154112

Dan

Posted on: 10/17 12:05:55
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HELP! Reverse gear NOT working on 47 Clipper
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I have a Packard transmission question about reverse gear engagement. Maybe it belongs on the general forum section, but I'll start here for now.

PROBLEM: Reverse gear no longer works.

It worked for 400 miles after we got this "stray 47 Clipper" on the road several months ago. After backing up in reverse about 75 feet a month ago, it has worked intermittently.
Now it does not work at all.
The linkage feels smooth and reverse SEEMS to be engaging from the feel in the gear shift on the column.

Our mechanic has looked at it. He removed the cover. Everything seems to be in order.

Putting it up on a frame lift with the wheels free hanging, the wheels TURN in REVERSE gear. The reverse gear appears to works.

However, then the frame lift is lowered and the wheels are on the ground, AGAIN REVERSE GEAR does not work.

1. Any Ideas on this mystery of reverse gear?

2. Could it involve the shoe [3.242] on the reverse gear / 1st gear shift fork? [3.240]
See Illustration below.

Dan

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Posted on: 10/16 18:20:35
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Re: HILLBILLY PACKARD ~ 41 & 46 Clipper Bros.
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Its been SIX Years since my last Blog post. (Long Story for Later).

I have a Packard transmission question about reverse gear engagement. Maybe it belongs on the general forum section, but I'll start here for now.

PROBLEM: Reverse gear no longer works.

It worked for 400 miles after we got this "stray 47 Clipper" on the road several months ago. After backing up in reverse about 75 feet a month ago, it has worked intermittently.
Now it does not work at all.
The linkage feels smooth and reverse SEEMS to be engaging from the feel in the gear shift on the column.

Our mechanic has looked at it. He removed the cover. Everything seems to be in order.

Putting it up on a frame lift with the wheels free hanging, the wheels TURN in REVERSE gear. The reverse gear appears to works.

However, then the frame lift is lowered and the wheels are on the ground, AGAIN REVERSE GEAR does not work.

1. Any Ideas on this mystery of reverse gear?

2. Could it involve the shoe [3.242] on the reverse gear / 1st gear shift fork? [3.240]
See Illustration below.

Dan

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Posted on: 10/16 18:12:13
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Re: HILLBILLY PACKARD ~ 41 & 46 Clipper Bros.
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I started this Hillbilly Packard Project Blog just 15 months ago. My repair and restoration of "Clipper Jack" goes back SEVEN years to the fall of 2007.

This was ----
NO Frame-OFF job;
NO SHOW CAR project;
NO PRO SHOP garage.
JUST a DIY, tinker, grease monkey, knuckle-buster, hobby, TLC repair, recondition, rollin, restoration.


I recently discovered some photos of the 2007-2008 trip to KY to pick up this Clipper, along with early repair work that followed. These pictures reminded me of how neglected this engine was as well as all the work I have done in the last seven years.

So I would like to post them here and elaborate in the narrative that opens this Project Blog.

HAULING RIG
Having NO car trailer, I rented a U-Haul trailer in South Dakota. The trailer was shorter than I wanted, but I thought it could work. SO, I hooked up my Chevy Silverado to the trailer and packed to go.


Once I got to Versailles KY, Louie Logan had parked the Clipper in front the blacktop road in front of a horse barn. It was a beautiful sight. WE shook hands and I loaded the beast onto the little trailer. As we turned around in the lawn around the barn, I realized how short to\he U-Haul rig actually was. Photos 2 & 3

The trip home was nearly a 1,000 miles. The Clipper pranced along behind me as if it was happy to be on the road and have a new start even if it was only a tow.

Once I got back to SD, I started repairs. The engine was a mess as seen in Photo 4. The air cleaner had 20 years of gunk in the oil bath.

The water pump needed replacement Photo 5 and 6. The back plates of the water pump, (old on left and new on right), are examples of the replacement repairs. 6, and 7.

Eventually, I had the frame up on blocks, floor jacks, and a hydraulic jack (I like 2 or 3 backup supports before I crawl under 3800 lb of old steel.

The water pump and brake master cylinder were rebuilt, repainted and reinstalled.

When I replaced the center grill, I paused for a photo opportunity on the design that facinates me most on the 41 Clippers, including Clipper Jack.


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Posted on: 2014/12/5 20:34
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Re: HILLBILLY PACKARD ~ 41 & 46 Clipper Bros.
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Posted on: 2014/12/1 18:02
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Re: HILLBILLY PACKARD ~ 41 & 46 Clipper Bros.
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ONE LAST TRY!!!

The second photo shows the FIRE in the wood stove.
This is HILLBILLY Packard Brothers INC.

The last shows the Brothers themselves.
RAY on the left and DAN on the right.
CLIPPER JACK in the middle. The good lookin' 41 Clipper.

Dan Leininger

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Posted on: 2014/12/1 16:39
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Re: HILLBILLY PACKARD ~ 41 & 46 Clipper Bros.
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The photos keep attaching UPSIDE DOWN!
Obviously we are NOT working on the ceiling here.
BUT the whole shop seems to be "down under."

Posted on: 2014/12/1 16:27
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Re: HILLBILLY PACKARD ~ 41 & 46 Clipper Bros.
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"Clipper Jack" has made it into the PACKARD CORMORANT current ISSUE FOR WINTER 2014, PAGE 25.

I WAS SURPRISED to see that Stuart Blond used my photo and description in the Clipper feature issue. The section on 1941-1947 Clippers is well done.

I am in Missouri at Hillbilly Packard Bothers (which is what brother Ray and I call our Packard tinkering hobby.) Ray's is a 1946 Clipper. Mine is a 1941.

Clipper Jack was back on the road today after a long year of dis-repair. After a much needed car wash and fresh gasoline he sailed Twenty miles down the road. 50 to 65 mph and going well.

This is an old photo of Clipper my 41 from when I kept it at my home in South Dakota.

Tomorrow we take the front clip off of Rays 46.
Joy. Joy (Not Henry Joy)

More later ....
Dan

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Posted on: 2014/11/20 20:55
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Re: 37th Annual Texas Packard Meet
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Arrived in Salado today just as the 630 supper was being served up. But was unable to bring Clipper Jack with me.
We left SD early Wednesday morning and arrived in Bolivar, MO at my brother Ray's (the secret location of Hillbilly Packard Brothers). Tinkered on the 41 on Wednesday and Thursday, but without sufficient success to bring it down to TX.
Saw JWs 47 Clipper (maroon) with a For Sale sign in the window. Wish my name was "Sale."
Will go back in the morning to see cars and swap meet. I will try to post a few photos from TX for all of you to enjoy.
Here is an old photo of my Clipper Jack from 2009 National in Brandon, MO.
More later,
Dan Leininger

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Posted on: 2014/4/4 20:47
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Re: 37 Super 8 with sidemounts $5,000.....
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Yes, foolishly overpriced.
No danger of me picking this one up.

And while I am a worshipper of authenticity...
...
there are times I would long to have a beautiful Packard with 12V system, A/C, and all the luxuries that are now necessities
on our highways that would still cruise the interstates at 70-75 mph all day ...

I guess none of you other PI posters have such sacrilegious thoughts,and Pack-religious fantasies as I do.

But I could do MY fantasy for less money than this Matchbox Packard.

DanL

Posted on: 2014/1/8 19:29
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