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Re: 47 super clipper carburator problem
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Good suggestions from David,
When I set the idle on my 53 clipper, I set the idle speed at about 500 or 550 rpm.
I also used a vacuum gauge to achieve the highest vac at idle. This is a cheap and good tool for setting idle on these cars. CO level was about 3% if you have a CO meter to test the exhaust. Sounds like you might just be lean at idle.

Here is a link to my blog when I set the idle.
MyBlog-IdleSetting

I think these carbs don't wear out the butterfly shafts out as fast as solex carburetors, or other german cars that have single butterflys per cylinder. I would not worry about the bushings and shafts, but tune/check your vacuum at idle with a gauge.
Viele Grüße,
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Posted on: 4/27 23:31:26
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Re: Timing a 36 120 Business coupe
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Shows you how much I know about this....Gero sent us a few pictures. It does have one coil, so I guess it must be an 8 lobe cam converted to dual points? I think I can even see that the points are worn from here. The top left set of points in the one picure looks to be closed, but not parallel. Oi vey.

So would setting point gap and dwell be best done with a dwell meter? 30 degrees is standard for an 8 cyl engine from what I just googled. -now I question if the 0.018 to 0.022 point gap listed in the owners manual is still fitting for this modified distributor. Any suggestion for point gap? (Sorry JW, just re-read your suggestion of 0.016)

Then setting timing is just done like any old normal single point distributor is done? Timing light on cyl 1 and then max vac at idle and then check for pinging under load? -6 degrees at Idle as a starting point.

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Posted on: 4/14 14:16:40
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Re: Snubber install on a 36 120 business coupe
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Thanks all,
I'll relay to Gero. Hmm, I see the "simple" snubber at steele for much much less than what Gero paid for his adjustable snubber. Honestly, I don't know if he has clutch chatter or not, or becasue of what vibrations he wants to install the snubber.

This got me thinking about my 53 clipper. When driving of "normally" or gently, my clutch is fine. If I do drive of agressivly I will get some clutch chatter. My rear leaf springs are rebuilt, and my transmission mount is new, but my motormounts are kind of old a crusty (but still intact).
It sounds like replacing the motor mounts would help smooth things out.
-Mike

Posted on: 4/13 14:22:59
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Re: Timing a 36 120 Business coupe
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I believe Gero's car has the 4 lobe dual point distributor. And James, your procedure is certainly the best way to get the timing as early as possible for the best vac at idle, but then back off if there is pinging at load in high gear up hill.
Thanks for the advice. I will relay to Gero.

-With these dual point distributors: I understand that one set of points is adjusted by rotating the distributor, and the second set is somehow adjusted by moving the points inside the distributor? Is that right?

-Then with the "fuel compensator" you can then add or subtract a few degrees advance accordingly.
-I Appreciate you all helping me help Gero.

Posted on: 4/13 14:13:53
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Re: The "After Eight" Roadster
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I vote for the 53-54 front bumper, and also a nice aluminum tube for the air intake with samco or some other turbo hot rod type hose joints instead of the "dryer duct".
Ross, I enjoy watching your work!
Now I also know what one can install when one relocates the battery for weight distribution Holy horns batman!

Posted on: 4/11 15:15:11
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Timing a 36 120 Business coupe
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Helping out Gero, a packard friend over here. I translated this for him, but have never personally timed a dual point distributor. What is a Synchronoscope?
From what I understand, he should be able to use a normal timing gun on cyl 1 for one set of points that are fixed to the disributor, and then on cyl 6 to set the timing of the second set of points that can be moved relative to the distributor.
Also, is 5 deg at idle and then 25 degrees maximum at speed on the flywheel or damper the correct end points for ignition?
Thanks, happy Easter and stay healthy!

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Posted on: 4/11 15:09:32
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Snubber install on a 36 120 business coupe
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A friend wants to install this snubber on his 36 120 business coupe. Are there any tricks to installing? Is it better to be slightly in compression or tension, or neutral when everything is at rest?
Thanks all!

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Posted on: 4/11 15:02:36
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Re: Fresh air induction
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Hi Kev,
I don't have a real need for a change like this. In the past when I lived closer to Stuttgart and would occasionally sit/crawl in traffic in 95 degree weather for 15 minutes, at times like that, I could tell that my idle would get a little rough and I could see a little more movement in my manifold vacuum gauge. No problems with vapor lock, or overheating, but I did get the feeling that the fuel system was getting hot.
I do have the fuel pump heat shield, and carb insulation/spacer. They work well.
I now live further in the country, so don't have to worry about traffic anymore.
A simple mod that would be very easy would be to put some thin insulation on the underside of the fuel pump heat shield. Although that probably might not make much difference, since heat rises.
Bending a sheet aluminium cover for the exhaust manifold would also be kind of "cool"

Posted on: 3/31 12:53:22
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Fresh air induction
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I was thinking...it should be kind of easy to tap into the right front fresh air intake before it goes into the heater fan, and direct some air to the fuel pump and or the carburetor for fresh air/cooling to those parts.
I'm talking about the 51-53 Packards here. Has anyone ever seen, or done this? I guess venting to the fuel pump would be easy, but running some kind of snorkle to the air filter might get a little long, and not look so original.
Just brainstorming....

Posted on: 3/26 13:52:23
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Re: Mike's 53 Clipper
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Season opener was today, and we went on a 55 mile trip. Mostly Autobahn at 60-70 mph. The new freeze plug holds water, yay!
The new shocks ride quite well. I am pleased with them. When I removed the rear shocks, the passenger side top "washer" was missing. That pretty much let the top of that shock pull almost out of its mount. The rear seems a little more stable now, but I am still loosing some gas out the filler neck on hard right turns.
Also need to tighten my fan belt, but glad to be on the road again! I also have quite a bit of wind noise coming from the vent windows in the front doors. There is always room for improvement!

Posted on: 3/26 13:42:23
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