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General information -Restoration
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2019/7/20 18:21
From Tampa
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Howdy y'all, name is Harc
i got a 1951 Packard 200 ultramatic touring sedan that I bought.

Im trying to restore the car, with no power tools (mainly because i lack the funds to buy some).

the few problem with the car are
-the 7th piston is seized
-it appears most of the electrical cables and assembly have been cut
-the starter is bad, but not the solenoid
-major rust on the floor pans
-surface rust.
-brakes go to the floor, I believe it is a master cylinder problem (more or less the lack of brake fluid).

I plan on removing the engine and getting it milled and the 7th piston sleeved.

I would appreciate some restoration advice and detailed pictures and diagram for the engine bay (mainly the wiring)
so when i get the engine repaired I can buy and connect new wiring.

also advice on the best/cheapest place to buy restoration parts.

I leave on deployment this October, it is a time hunch build. but i believe I can get it done.

I ultimately I plan on driving this car when i go home.

Posted on: 2019/7/26 21:05
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Re: General information -Restoration
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a seized piston, assuming this means rings rusted to bore, is not necessarily going to require sleeving. More likely to require cylinder overbore. Put penetrating oil or ATF in the spark plug hole, wait, rock it in gear, repeat. Patience! This can take days, but can free the piston so you can disassemble the engine without further damage.

Kanter, Hirsch, Merritt are places to start for parts. Mechanical parts are relatively easy to find, although it's not a catalog car like Chevy or Ford.

I'd advise you to have an overall view on the project - be aware that this is a modest value car and you are likely to be financially upside down. Which is OK if you're enjoying the ride.

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Re: General information -Restoration
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Pictures. We want pictures.

Posted on: 2019/7/27 6:50
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Re: General information -Restoration
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2019/7/20 18:21
From Tampa
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The gouge in the cylinder wall (bottom left of most of the pictures)

It's about 1&1/4 inch long
And 1/16th inch wide

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Posted on: 2019/7/27 10:19
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Re: General information -Restoration
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*bottom right*

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Re: General information -Restoration
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Might be better to source a different engine. Seems they are pretty plentiful and usually cheap. Check out BigKev's project blog for lots of information and wiring. He bought a new universal harness and installed it. I have a few pics on my blogs too. I ended up making my own harness using the old one as a template, but you might not have enough left of yours to do it. There is a service manual on this sight you can download with wiring diagrams. Of course you can always ask the forum for help. Lots of helpful people on this forum. For your brakes, I would replace all lines, cylinders and master cylinder. You don't want to take chances with that. Napa can supply all the parts. You would be surprised how many mechanical parts you can still get from the auto parts stores. See the Packard Parts X-Ref on the left side of the website for examples.

From experience, bodywork and rust repair will be the most difficult and expensive things to be taken care of just to make the car safe. I would start there to make sure you can get this fixed reasonably or you will find the car is only useful as a parts car.

Posted on: 2019/7/30 16:53
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