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"Concourse" vs. "Concours"
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I have mentioned this problem to our Webmaster but I am sure he is busier with more important things. However, as Packard enthusiasts, we certainly need to reflect our knowledge and refinement of terminology. In our Owner Registry one of the options relevant to condition is:
"Concourse"
Well, most ALL our Packards are ready to at least roll down a highway or road. That, essentially, is the meaning linked to "Concourse." The proper word in our Registry application should be "Concours" (no "e"): an exhibition of items in which awards are given for outstanding examples.
Could somebody PLEASE correct this? I see the misuse of this term even with some of the most respected classic automobile dealers; let's not be among them!

Posted on: 12/28 7:22:40
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Re: "Concourse" vs. "Concours"
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One of my favorite peeves too. Thanks for bringing up the subject.

Posted on: 12/28 8:31:43
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Re: "Concourse" vs. "Concours"
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Esquireman wrote:
I have mentioned this problem to our Webmaster but I am sure he is busier with more important things. However, as Packard enthusiasts, we certainly need to reflect our knowledge and refinement of terminology. In our Owner Registry one of the options relevant to condition is:
"Concourse"
Well, most ALL our Packards are ready to at least roll down a highway or road. That, essentially, is the meaning linked to "Concourse." The proper word in our Registry application should be "Concours" (no "e"): an exhibition of items in which awards are given for outstanding examples.
Could somebody PLEASE correct this? I see the misuse of this term even with some of the most respected classic automobile dealers; let's not be among them!


Think of a "concourse" as you might a branch of a hallway lined with doors or gates, or stores–as in an airport. Like "Gate 4, Concourse B"...

Many people today say or write "concourse" when they really mean "Concours"... as based from the term "Concours d'Elegance" (meaning contest of elegance). Incidentally, "Concours" is pronounced "con-coor" and not "con-course" or "con-coors."

Posted on: 12/28 10:25:11
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Re: "Concourse" vs. "Concours"
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Wonderful points above, all. Would also help if more car buffs realized the original European concours d'elegances were not remotely the janitorial d'nonelegances celebrated today.
Instead, cars often driven through rain the night before, parked on the grounds near the hotel, a bit of mud still on their tire treads and gasp, under their fenders, judged solely on line and form, innate style, presence.

Phil Hill's Santa Monica shop may've realized much income from the above hobby-decimating mentality, but he himself knew better, as when he remarked seeing "more cars forever ruined for the sake of a few more points at a concours."

A ho hum car given a zealot's restoration with better than new cosmetics is still a ho hum car. Nothing can change that.
Hard to believe today, that Packard advertised in the New Yorker and Literary Digest.
Thank you, gentlemen.

Posted on: 12/28 15:30:30
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Re: "Concourse" vs. "Concours"
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The registry has been fixed to remove typo.

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Re: "Concourse" vs. "Concours"
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Speaking of terminology pet-peeves. Grill vs Grilles bothers me.

Our cars have a Grille, used to protect the radiator, and you cook on a Grill (which is the actual appliance, BBQ, etc) as opposed to the grate which the meat sits on. :)

Posted on: 1/2 9:47:45
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Re: "Concourse" vs. "Concours"
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BigKev wrote: The registry has been fixed to remove typo.

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Re: "Concourse" vs. "Concours"
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Hi Big Kev,

I have to say, I learned something on this one. I thought the two words were basically the same thing, with 'concourse' being the Americanized version of the French 'Concours'. Thanks to Leeedy and Esquireman for setting us straight. Always good to 'get it right'. Re your mention of Grill vs. grille Big Kev, I agree it is also an oft-made mistake. Only thing I'd add to that is that while BBQ's are referred to as grills, meaning the appliance, the 'grill' IS the grate on which the meat is cooked.

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Re: "Concourse" vs. "Concours"
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Now all we have to figure out is it "litre" or "liter"??
"color" or "colour"......

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Re: "Concourse" vs. "Concours"
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Or Hood or Bonnet

Or Trunk or Boot

Or Fender or Mudguard or Wing

Or Wrench or Spanner

Or .........

Or .........

Where will it end?

Posted on: 1/2 19:06:46
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'48 2222 "Almost" Rolling Limo Chassis and Engine (Sold Sept 2019)
'50 Eight Touring Sedan

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