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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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Why not just hotwire the coil directly from the battery post, and then jump the starter directly from the battery using a heavy jumper cable, bypassing the starter solenoid. If it doesn't turn over there are only a few possibilities; short of a seized engine, a bad battery or bad starter motor would be primary among them.

Then if it turns over and you have a spark, fuel and air, it should start.

Posted on: 2019/7/25 18:20
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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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A click and then no lights usually indicates a bad connection between the battery posts and the cables. Try a light sanding of the posts and the inside of the cable connections.

Posted on: 2019/7/25 22:50
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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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Thanks guys, I had tried all of those tricks. Maybe the wire I used wasn't thick enough when I jumped the starter. I'll try something thicker. Hopefully it's the battery rather than the starter.

Posted on: 2019/7/30 8:32
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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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If you jumped the starter directly, bypassing the starter solenoid, you need a wire at least as heavy as the battery cable. At a minimim, a good quality jumper cable.

Posted on: 2019/7/30 8:51
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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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So I cleaned all of the connections, including the copper strip going from the solenoid to the starter and the bolt & block area for the ground wire. Still only clicks.

Removed all the wires from the starter and connected it straight to the battery with heavy duty jumper cables. When I jumped the connection at the starter to the solenoid, the motor spun, but did not engage the engine.

Hmm...still not sure if it's the battery or the starter.

Next I hooked the starter to a 12v battery that I know was fully charged. Same result. Maybe it's not the battery, but the starter?

Went into the bowels of my garage and managed to find the starter that came with the car originally. I tested this one with the 6v battery and it only spun and the gear only came out a little. Tried with the 12v battery and the same thing! This was using the 12v with positive ground. I switched to negative ground and the starter gear came out a lot farther (not sure how far it should come out). Now I'm not sure what to dry next.

I put the wires back on the old starter and it only clicked again. Then I added a jumper cable from the positive terminal to the engine block bolt on the ground cable and the motor would spin, but not engage.

Is it possible the motor is turning the wrong direction and not allowing the gear to come out and engage the flywheel? I don't want to swap starters since the other one appears to do the same thing when connected to the 6v battery.

Posted on: 2019/8/11 14:29
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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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Since you tried a 6 volt and also a 12 volt battery and get the same result, it sounds like it is something in the starter itself. Maybe some corrosion on the shaft where the gear spins out on?

Posted on: 2019/8/11 19:06
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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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That's the wierd part. I'm pretty sure the other starter works. I just swapped it for my other one because I knew it had been rebuilt and looked nicer. I guess I'm going to have to install it and cross my fingers it works. Dont want to buy a battery only to find out it was fine and no one near me can test a 6v battery.

Posted on: 2019/8/12 16:36
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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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What seems odd is the 12 volt battery should spin that starter much faster and throw the starter gear out almost instantly.
And since things were working great last year, seems odd it would come on so fast.

Posted on: 2019/8/12 16:50
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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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Exactly! I even ran the car a few times in the winter with no problem as long as it wasn't too cold.

Posted on: 2019/8/12 16:55
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Re: 51Packards....52 Packard 200 Deluxe!
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Is the 12 volt battery a good one?? I know I've never seem to have great luck with the 6 volt batteries. Seems like they need attention to keep them charging.

Posted on: 2019/8/12 17:12
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