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1935 - 1937 senior Packard fender lights
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Can someone provide a factory photo, period photo, or factory literature showing a set of those small fender lights you see on most of the restored 1935 - 37 senior Packards actually on a car? It seems to me none of these cars ever had them when they left the factory, but they all do now when restored. Personally, I don't like them at all as I think they (along with Trippe lights) ruin the clean lines of the front of the car.

Posted on: 2014/8/23 8:59
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Re: 1935 - 1937 senior Packard fender lights
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This question has come up before, forget whether here or on The Packard Club forum, and some pictures were posted. At least with respect to 1937/38, the fender lights do show on the factory wiring diagram as "special equipment" so I suspect some cars did leave the factory with them. Just looked at the 35/36 Super Eight and Twelve A.E.A. wiring diagrams and they also appear there.

Posted on: 2014/8/23 9:16
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Posted on: 2014/8/23 9:34
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BUT, is that wiring you refer to actually for the accessory Packard Fog King fog lights though? I'm still looking for a pre 1940 picture of a car showing the fender lights. It seems no such photo exists. Do the fender lights appear in the 1935-37 accessory list? I have always wondered if they were an invention by the company that reproduces them now.

Posted on: 2014/8/23 10:00
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Here's a copy of the Packard accessories catalog that Mal sent me earlier this year.

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Posted on: 2014/8/23 10:03
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Well OK, I guess I'm wrong then. It just seems funny you never see an original pair anywhere or any old photos of cars with them on. I've seen lots of photos of Packards at meets back in the 1950, 60's, 70's and they were never on cars back then. It wasn't until the one accessory reproducer started making them in the 1980's that you see them all the time now.

Posted on: 2014/8/23 10:32
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One other comment I"ll make is on the 1937 Packard Twelve, they already had 4 beams of headlights. Park (these were the factory parking lights), City, Country, and High Beam. So I guess the fender lights would be wired in to come on with the Park setting of the headlights then.

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Also, many times the fender mounted lights have been added when turn signals were installed in the pre-1940 junior cars.

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Posted on: 2014/8/23 11:17
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Another indication in addition to the wiring diagram that fender lights were available is that fender lamp bulbs, # and candlepower, are listed in the bulb chart in the shop manual.

I don't know how they handled the two different parking light or fender lamp possibilities with regard to the main headlamp but in 1933/34 if you had fender lamps the headlight reflectors only had a single bulb (the headlamp bulb). If you didn't have fender lights you got a different headlamp which additionally contained a low candlepower parking lamp bulb.

Posted on: 2014/8/23 17:51
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