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Re: Brake drum stuck to axle
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nice idea on the puller but you won't get enough torque on that bolt to pop the hub loose. I bought a dogbone puller from Amazon but just used my impact driver on it at first, thinking that should be plenty. After a few days of that I got a BFH (Big F**ing Hammer) and after several good whacks off they came, just like it's supposed to work. Invaluable tool, my hubs had been on there for 40+ years so they were pretty happy where they were.

Posted on: 2014/10/20 16:47
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Re: Brake drum stuck to axle
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All,

JD from KC was kind enough to loan me his dog bone hub puller. It worked perfectly. In a matter of a few seconds of furious pounding with a 2 1/2 lb hammer on the dog bone, the hub popped free.

SO: Verdict is get the right tool and the job is quick and easy!

(JD's post was earlier in the thread and had a picture of the puller that worked perfectly!)

Thanks,

John

Posted on: 2014/10/21 10:13
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Re: Brake drum stuck to axle
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It's been said over and over again. But it's BOTH the tightening/pulling action of the dog bone turning and the shock from the hammer hitting it that causes the friction fit of the two tapers to let go of one another.

If they have been on a long time, it really takes a lot more tightening/pulling and hammering than one would think.

Posted on: 2014/10/23 13:14
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Re: Brake drum stuck to axle
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Regardless of the type of puller used the TRICK is to ALSO strike the end of the pullers PRESSURE bolt. Stikr it directly parallel to the axle alternating between hammer strikes to the big wing nut.
The idea is too place inpact directly to the taper thru the end of the axle shaft.

So strike the wing nut to tighten it. Then strike the puller bolt directly at the end parallel to the shaft. Alternate this procedure until it comes loose.

Posted on: 2014/10/23 14:20
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Re: Brake drum stuck to axle
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JGR, when it comes time to reassemble, resist the temptation to put some "neversieze" or other material on the taper to make removal easier the next time, the taper joint surfaces need to be clean and DRY to properly transmit the driving force torque.

Posted on: 2014/10/23 14:21
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Re: Brake drum stuck to axle
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PackardV8 wrote:
Regardless of the type of puller used the TRICK is to ALSO strike the end of the pullers PRESSURE bolt. Stikr it directly parallel to the axle alternating between hammer strikes to the big wing nut.
The idea is too place inpact directly to the taper thru the end of the axle shaft.

So strike the wing nut to tighten it. Then strike the puller bolt directly at the end parallel to the shaft. Alternate this procedure until it comes loose.


Although probably a common practice, I think it is a bad one because of damage to bearings and center block. I only pound on the wing nut and never on on the puller bolt. To each his own way.

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Posted on: 2014/10/23 16:14
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Re: Brake drum stuck to axle
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Assuming a knockoff wheel puller which in modern photos appears to look something like a large coupling nut that screws onto the end of axle and is struck a heavy blow to loosen the hub was the same back then, Packard specifically says not to use that type.

I would think that striking the end of a regular puller would be the same as using a knockoff puller. It would appear Packard concurs with JW that striking the axle on the end can damage the thrust block.

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Posted on: 2014/10/23 16:34
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Re: Brake drum stuck to axle
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JW wrote:

Although probably a common practice, I think it is a bad one because of damage to bearings and center block. I only pound on the wing nut and never on on the puller bolt. To each his own way.

(o{}o)


+1

Posted on: 2014/10/23 21:30
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Re: Brake drum stuck to axle
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Uh guys! I don't get this BFH pounding on a dogbone deal. I showed you what I did and it worked perfectly. No pounding, just leverage. Jeez. Not going to break anything that way.

Craig

Posted on: 2014/10/24 4:38
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Re: Brake drum stuck to axle
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Here we go again...
There's no friction unless there's motion, so it can't be a friction fit. It's called interference.
If you don't lube the taper and dry torque it into the stratosphere, be prepared to go through this again. The taper does not transmit the torque the key does that. Final answer.

Posted on: 2014/10/25 20:20
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