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I'm curios about the shift lever location if there is enough left to visualize. It would seem if you moved the engine back the trans and cane shift would also have to move so is a stock lever located right next to the seat or did they rearrange the handle or seat in some way.
Posted on: 2015/3/1 12:52
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The 120C and 115C were essentially the same from the cowl wall back with the 115C being 5-inches shorter. The shortened length was taken out forward of the cowl. My 115C has an indent in the cowl for the engine, and the cane shift is close to the slanted footboard. These I believe are the same as the 120C. A lighter 6-cylinder engine and shorter wheel base would make it easier to park and drive in traffic than the longer and heavier 8-cylinder. David Flack will know.
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Posted on: 2015/3/1 13:23
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Well, JW, you are right. The 115C is indeed an easier car to drive in city traffic, but WE know that. My Mom always prefers driving the 115c when she is in town. As for the other details, we shall see what the car says - who knows, it might have a shortened 36 frame, there are many differences that could be noted by the field trip.
Oh, and as for Marvin still having everything from Jared's GGF, I highly doubt that is true, as i have been buying parts from Marvin since at least 72 or 73...!
Posted on: 2015/3/1 19:27
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I would encourage whoever visit the prototype Six to photo document it as completely as possible and share with us. This is what I attempted to do with the first production 1955 Patrician (5582-1001).
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Posted on: 2015/3/1 22:17
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This is a great development, thank you for posting. I look forward to learning more from Mr. King. After Larry's wife died in the mid-60's, he did spend the last few summers of his retirement up north. That would be at my grandparents' property (where the car still sits). It sounds like he never fully left his home in Detroit. He passed away downstate in or before 1975.
Posted on: 2015/3/2 5:36
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Here is a picture of the lower dash/transmission area I took on my last visit to the car. We can see that the floor and even the frame are almost disintegrated (that's daylight visible behind the brake pedal). But the shift lever still moves left and right. As for any special mods, it's very hard to say. The rusted springs of the bench seat are around the site somewhere, but it was detached and pulled from the interior long before my time.
Posted on: 2015/3/2 12:21
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Hello again,
The story of the #1 Junior Packard continues. This month we were able to remove the engine and transmission from the wreck of the car that has been in the woods since 1956. The wooden coachwork has fallen out and the upper sheet metal panels are paper-thin. However, the frame cradle for the engine was remarkably preserved, despite being packed in sand for decades. Amazingly, the engine's oil pan was intact despite being buried as well. I stumbled across the dipstick and (after the engine was moved) I pulled out thick, black oil. After almost 60 years of exposure to sun and rain, the shape of the fasteners was really very impressive. A couple head bolts were tried, and they backed off with a simple crescent wrench--no heating. This allowed us to make an angle-iron pick point to lift the engine easily. By the end of the day I was able to remove the four main transmission studs and separate it from the clutch housing. For anyone's information and interest, I have attached pictures of the numbers stamped on the block and the head.
Posted on: 2015/5/6 11:40
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Thanks for the follow-up. Have you located the actual motor number? It could be at least as interesting if not more so than the casting numbers and dates if original to the car. The motor casting date is curious in that it's only a few days before the series began production (Sept.3) and blocks would have had to have been cast well in advance of 9/3, so I'm wondering if it's a replacement motor. Motor numbers began at T1500 IIRC - someone correct me on that if I'm wrong, please.
Posted on: 2015/5/6 12:27
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For comparison purposes the casting date on my 115C's engine is 11 16 36 and the stamped engine number is T17395. The car was delivered on Dec. 24, 1936 by the Oklahoma City dealer. An convertible coupe.
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Posted on: 2015/5/6 15:01
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