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What kind of car is this?
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Garrett Meadows
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What kind of car is General Smedley Butler behind the wheel of in this pic?

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Posted on: 2015/5/24 15:40
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Re: What kind of car is this?
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Good question. My first guess would be a Fiat though the Westinghouse pneumatic shock absorbers throw in a wrinkle - they are normally associated with the large prestigious U.S. cars of the era though I suppose they might have had an export business as well. Maybe a Simplex?

Posted on: 2015/5/24 15:50
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Re: What kind of car is this?
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Dave, FIAT would have been my first guess too. But it is a Daniels Speedster.
Garret (skateboardgumby), Wikipedia offers a high resolution photo. Click to enlarge!

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Posted on: 2015/5/24 16:56
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Re: What kind of car is this?
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Thanks for the high-res photo and name of the car: Daniels Speedster. I'm eager to find out more about it. Great looking car, besides being a right-hand-drive. You have to hand it to military officers of that era. They liked their sports cars. Col. Billy Mitchell had a 1926 Packard convertible.

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Posted on: 2015/5/24 21:56
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Re: What kind of car is this?
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Yeah, neat machine. Right hand drive wouldn't have been at all uncommon at that time, most (all?) American cars were RHD from the get-go, Pierce-Arrow is generally considered the last to change over to LHD, about 1914 or thereabouts.

There were several U.S. makes of cars called Daniels, I believe this is one of those made in Reading PA. There is some history with photographs in the Standard Catalog of American Cars; Daniels of Reading was in business between 1916 and 1924 so apparently they clung to RHD longer than Pierce. Daniels was an early user of the V8 engine type, originally purchasing them from Herschell-Spillman but about 1919 developed their own V8 which was a potent engine for the time, 404 cubic inches and rated at 90 hp. A couple of Daniels survive.

Posted on: 2015/5/25 6:07
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Re: What kind of car is this?
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This is definitely NOT a Daniels. I'm restoring one and is 100% sure The radiator is similar, so are the headlights, but no. To start whith, the Daniels never had an emblem on the radiator, shape of the windshield is wrong, windshield posts are wrong, Daniels never made RHD drive cars. I've traced circa 15 survivors, all LHD. Hubcaps are wrong and many more details.

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Posted on: 2021/12/14 3:35
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Re: What kind of car is this?
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It's an American Fiat - they had a plant in New York in the teens, only turned out a few cars. Not sure about the fenders on this one, but, here's a pic of a touring car I found on the web that's identified as a 1918 American Fiat.

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Posted on: 2021/12/14 10:36
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Re: What kind of car is this?
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This car is a FIAT

Posted on: 2021/12/22 4:30
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