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1939 driver's side rear view mirror
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I am looking for info on door-mount rear view mirrors for my '39 Six touring car. I have poured over Ebay and all the 'usual suspects' to try and track down what was originally on the '39's when new and cannot definitively identify an example to give me a base line for what I am looking for. Can anybody provide a pic or info. The gentleman at Kanters says the problem is the year. Apparently the '39 cars had a different body line or something unique, and 'regular' side view mirrors are not interchangeable. I have the holes (in my driver door only)to receive a mirror and before I go with the window frame 'clip-on' peep version, I would dearly love to round up an original. Can anybody give me some help or direction??
Thanks in advance for any replies!!!

Posted on: 2017/1/17 18:08
'If you think you can, or you think you can't - you're right!' Henry Ford.
1939 Packard Six, Model 1700
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Re: 1939 driver's side rear view mirror
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Here are a couple of Packard offerings from the 39 accessory book available for download in the literature section. Also a photo of a car showing where it was installed. I assume these are for the junior bodies. There was a discussion a few weeks ago where it was mentioned the 39 senior cars are a whole different game as far as accessories. No idea if the mirrors carried across lines.

Mirrors were also aftermarket, sold and made by many. Those could be sold by dealers too so I expect there are a lot of other mirrors that could show up on Packards and if sold by a dealer could be mistakenly called an authentic item. Also, if it would fit and look decent nothing prevented a dealer from selling a later or current year mirror if a good customer wanted one for his older car. Looking thru service counselors Packard ran many promotions urging dealers to increase profit by selling accessories and in some cases mentioning current items that could be sold and installed on older models.

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Posted on: 2017/1/17 18:37
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Re: 1939 driver's side rear view mirror
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Stuart Blond is our resident librarian and has been out for an extended time, when he returns I'll get a look at the 35-40 Accessory Books. Below is a photo of a NOS 35-37 Junior closed car outside rear view mirror. One leg of the clamp goes under the vent window rubber and clips the vent window opening edge and the other goes over the door leading edge.

The original manuf of this mirror also made the Classic era sidemount mirrors with the same "See Rite" logo on the back.
If there is sufficient interest we will reproduce them

Note that these clamps are ground to a very thin edge. We've tried the common clamp-on mirrors with the screws in the back of the clamp and found that the door to windshield post gap was too small.


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Posted on: 2017/1/18 13:00
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Re: 1939 driver's side rear view mirror
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interested in seeing this mirror. my car originally had one on the driver's door and was converted to sidemounts later on, i believe, after my Grandmother sold it.

Posted on: 2017/1/18 13:16
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Re: 1939 driver's side rear view mirror
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Thank you Howard and Fred for your replies. I guess my car must fall under the aftermarket mirror installation category as the holes in my door are on the door panel, just under the fly window. I will take a picture and post it to show the exact setup. The center-to-center hole spacing is odd too, I will re-measure that and include with the post. Again, thanks for the follow up!

Posted on: 2017/1/18 20:26
'If you think you can, or you think you can't - you're right!' Henry Ford.
1939 Packard Six, Model 1700
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Re: 1939 driver's side rear view mirror
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In follow up to the replies on the '39 driver's side rear view mirror, I have attached a photo of the holes in my car door. In measuring the center-to-center on them, I come up with +/- 2 1/4". It looks like just SLIGHTLY over that, maybe 2 9/32", but if I could find a mirror that had 2 1/4" mounting holes I'm sure I could make it work. Does this look familiar to anyone?? And, by looking at the size of these holes, would the likelihood be that the previous mirror was attached with appropriate size sheet metal screws or was there more probably machine screws with nuts and washers that attached from the inside of the door?? Keep in mind that the car was painted after whatever mirror was there had been removed.
If this is truly a needle in a haystack and as good as impossible to find, I would surely throw my name on the petition to generate 'sufficient interest' to have that 'clamp' style mirror remanufactured. I don't know how many are needed to create equitable numbers, but I am sure there are lots of Junior owners out there who would love to have access to a manufacturer-authentic and period appropriate side mount mirror.

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Posted on: 2017/1/19 17:41
'If you think you can, or you think you can't - you're right!' Henry Ford.
1939 Packard Six, Model 1700
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Re: 1939 driver's side rear view mirror
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There is no need I can envision that would require you to find a mirror with the 2 1/4" approx spacing. As long as the mirror base covers the 2 holes it will look perfect.

2". 2 1/2", 3" 3 1/2" etc would all work. Mirrors like this are attached with screws as access to the inside of the door behind the window mechanism is difficult.

Posted on: 2017/1/19 18:31
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Re: 1939 driver's side rear view mirror
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Thanks Fred, is there anything in the Kanter lineup that would be appropriate? I had called in and was told because it was a '39, it was an oddball and therefore no-can-do.
Do you have any swan neck style mirrors whose base would cover those holes? 2 1/4" would be ideal. Also, I'm not sure of how long the arm should be to give optimal rear vision - presume you would know from experience which length and style would work best here. Thanks.

Posted on: 2017/1/19 20:01
'If you think you can, or you think you can't - you're right!' Henry Ford.
1939 Packard Six, Model 1700
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Re: 1939 driver's side rear view mirror
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The '41-'48 mirror will work, hole spacing is 3 1/2". We tried it on a '37 120 but held it below the belt line. It will work just as well in the position of your car.

We sell them in pairs only unless you want this used one


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Posted on: 2017/1/20 12:46
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Re: 1939 driver's side rear view mirror
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oops, I did hold it above the belt line

Posted on: 2017/1/20 12:49
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