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Re: Henney Brake Cylinder Rebuild Kits and Hoses
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Maybe this will prove useful, both 2413 and 2513 listed. I believe I still have all the individual catalog pages as well if you want further detail.

UPDATE: In consulted the individual part number pages and they show:

Master cylinder bore: 1-1/8"
Wheel cylinder bore, front: 1"
Wheel cylinder bore, rear: 1-1/8"

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Re: Henney Brake Cylinder Rebuild Kits and Hoses
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I'm making some headway with the numbers.

For brake hoses, all 1948 through 1954 Henney-Packards use the same one front and rear which is the same as all 22nd and 23rd series passenger cars. It is Napa number UP 4497.

For the cylinder kits, the only one I've confirmed so far is for the master which is Napa UP 137 so please ignore the Dorman number that I posted earlier. The original Wagner number for the master assembly itself was 2539 (thank you Mike Dulinski for looking at yours and providing the number!) but I have no new replacement so far.

In list format
Hoses front and rear: UP 4497
Master kit: UP 137 (1-1/8" bore)
Brake light switch: SL 138

Dave (Ownen_Dyneto), the Henneys had 1-1/8" front and 1-1/4" rear brake cylinders which is per the 1950 Packard Service Counselor.

Posted on: 7/25 19:03:20
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Re: Henney Brake Cylinder Rebuild Kits and Hoses
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Thanks for the info, Don. I was only relaying info from the Wagner Master Brake Catalog, be it right or wrong.

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Re: Henney Brake Cylinder Rebuild Kits and Hoses
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Thanks for the info, Don. I was only relaying info from the Wagner Master Brake Catalog, be it right or wrong.


Dave, No problem, it's all great information and it could also be that the Service Counselor is wrong although the sizes do ring a bell from when I did the last brake work on them in the '80s! Do you have the catalogs for other years to 1956? Might come in handy as I try to get my cars roadable again after decades of disuse.

Posted on: 7/27 11:31:12
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Re: Henney Brake Cylinder Rebuild Kits and Hoses
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My Wagner master brake catalog is 1952 and back.

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Re: Henney Brake Cylinder Rebuild Kits and Hoses
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I've still not gotten Napa (or other modern) replacement kit numbers but I'm going to my shop next week and will try to match them up in-person. Once I do, of course I'll post the numbers here. I'm not sure how far I'll get on the brakes as the hugh 14" rear drums are difficult to pull and before I can even try I've got to install the driveshaft and rear end.

Posted on: 8/22 11:18:09
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Re: Henney Brake Cylinder Rebuild Kits and Hoses
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If your master cylinder is 1 1/8, front wheel cylinders 1 1/8 and rear wheel
cylinders 1 1/4 here are the Wagner repair kit numbers and the Raybestos
repair kit numbers.

Wagner master cylinder kit F3631 Raybestos kit WK25
Wagner front wheel cylinder kit F13620 Raybestos kit WK36
Wagner rear wheel cylinder kit F5355 Raybestos kit WK54

Good luck

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Re: Henney Brake Cylinder Rebuild Kits and Hoses
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Thank you! The Raybestos numbers directly translate to Napa numbers as UP 36 and UP 54, both in stock. By the time I get to my shop next week, all kits including the master and hoses should be waiting so well see how much Im able to get done, especially if its hot there as it often is this time of year.

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Re: Henney Brake Cylinder Rebuild Kits and Hoses
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Just a footnote, I went to order the master kit to pick up at the Napa near my Terrebonne, OR shop and was told that the shipping was going to nearly double the price! For something that weighs only a half pound, that was ridiculous and no options for standard mail so I cancelled the order and bought it locally in Santa Clara, CA. Even with sales tax (Oregon has none) it was cheaper. The wheel kits and hoses where ordered from other sources and are at the shop waiting for me.

Posted on: 8/22 23:28:00
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Re: Henney Brake Cylinder Rebuild Kits and Hoses
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New cylinders are also available and here are the original Wagner Lockheed part numbers followed by modern replacement numbers for the front.

Left side
Wagner Lockheed FD4541
Raybestos WC-9340
Napa UP 9340

Right side
Wagner Lockheed FD4542
Raybestos WC-9341
Napa UP 9341

Another footnote is that I had a surprise yesterday when I pulled the driver side front drum. There are no brakes there at all other than the cylinder! I had forgotten that I borrowed them for another Henney along with those on the other side. I rebuilt the cylinder driver side cylinder while waiting for the needed parts to arrive but unfortunately the passenger side cylinder is cracked so must be replaced.

The photo shows what I found.

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Posted on: 8/31 19:17:52
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