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1940 Packard 180
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I need the proper air cleaner for a 1940 180 and also the proper heater knob in beige.

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Re: 1940 Packard 180
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Can't help on the air cleaner but you might check with Flackmaster or Lavine Restorations for the knob. Lavine bought the old Yesterday's Radio repro plastic business and repro some heater knobs. Prewar, Packards seemed to have various style switches and from what I have seen in various photos anything that could be dealer installed such as a heater might not have used the same style switch every time in a particular model and year unless maybe the accessory was a factory install. You may need to post a photo of what you have.

If Lavine doesn't carry the specific knob you need then it might get interesting. I would almost bet that anything else you find will be expensive because it will probably be from a parts car and may have a switch that comes with it or the plastic and any lettering on the knob may not be in the greatest condition. https://classiccarreproductions.com/pr ... ter-knobs-and-components/

If Flackmaster or Lavine cannot help and nothing else is suggested on a knob you might check with David Moe at Seattle Packards. At one time he had some prewar knobs along with a few switches.

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Re: 1940 Packard 180
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I have a functional rotary and a paddle switch which I had repaired at ridiculous expense. If you just need plastic, other sources should have it. If you need a functional switch, rotary or paddle, PM me.

If you're not super fussy, I have a clean 47 Super8 oil bath air cleaner whose neck is a bit more chiseled than a 40, but in all other respects is the same.

Please post a pic of what you have and what's wrong with it.

Posted on: 10/21 22:30:04
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Re: 1940 Packard 180
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The first pic is of the heater control I was told this is for a 160, the second pic is of the air cleaner (from the catalogued) this is the air cleaner currently on the car, also for a 160. The third pic is the air cleaner I need (shown on a 180 Darrin). I am looking for a solid original that may need repainting but is not a rust bucket or full of dents.

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Re: 1940 Packard 180
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WauhopM wrote:
The first pic is of the heater control I was told this is for a 160, the second pic is of the air cleaner (from the catalogued) this is the air cleaner currently on the car, also for a 160. The third pic is the air cleaner I need (shown on a 180 Darrin). I am looking for a solid original that may need repainting but is not a rust bucket or full of dents.


You got bad information regarding the air cleaner. Both are correct. The oil-bath cleaner (second photo) was an option. You also got bad information regarding the heater switch. There were a couple of versions, as Joe alluded to. One was rotary, and one was a paddle. The difference is not related to 160 vs 180, or any other models.

I gave Lavine (Yesterday's Radio) a paddle switch with plastic plate last year, and they are looking into reproducing it.

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Re: 1940 Packard 180
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The Deluxe heater/defroster for the 160 and 180 has 2 speeds in each direction. I've seen them with both types of switches, the twist knob like yours and the paddle, each handling 2 speeds of heat and 2 of defrost, by reversing the direction of the motor and by directing the current through resistors on the back of the switch. Both were used in 160s and 180s. I think it might depend on whether your car was built in 1939 or in 1940. The knob isn't specific to 160. Lavine has the plastic for the knob ($50)and for the plastic indicator ($40) plate. Your knob looks good, but I can't see the plastic plate behind the knob. If the switch works, you're golden. If it's been sitting a long time, the resistors might smoke a bit to burn off dust at first.

I think your air cleaner is correct for your car, another indication it may be an early 1939-built car. I'm not sure when the oil bath air cleaner was introduced. JUst because it's on a Darrin doesn't make it kosher. The oil bath air cleaners were used on 356 engines, but the elbow necks were different. The one on my car is the 1940 version. The spare is 1947 (I have a 1947 356 in the car from whence it came).

Unless you drive in a lot of dusty areas, I'd leave your original air cleaner, which may be far more rare than the oil bath. Someone here most likely knows better. And a supplier as mentioned above might have a 1940 version oil bath, but save the one you have is my advice.

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West Peterson's comment that an oil bath air filter on the 1940 160/180 was an option triggered my curiosity. I believe we all recognize that "official" Packard literature printed in advance of actual production of the cars can occasionally be incorrect; both the 1940 160/180 Owner's Manual and the Preliminary Shop Manual give instructions for servicing the air filter, and the only instructions given are for the oil bath type filter, suggesting that was standard equipment. Then looking in the 1935-41 Parts List, it shows two different air filters for the 1940 160/180, one listed as "oil bath" and the other not specified as to type.

Anyone have further info from a Packard source that might clarify this?

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Re: 1940 Packard 180
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I have an accessories brochure from the NY dealership dated Sept. 19, 1939. There is no mention of an oil bath air cleaner option. I suspect the oil bath was introduced later in '39 or '40 as standard, but the early cars had the one in the illustration.

Hollingsworth's PACKARD 1940 A PIVOTAL YEAR does not list oil bath air cleaner in its list of 1940 accessories either, and the display of accessories doesn't include it.

What is the VIN of your car. That would indicate how early it is.

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Re: 1940 Packard 180
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Understood. I probably should have worded it that there was a choice of either, but even that may not be the case if it was more of an early vs late production thing.

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Re: 1940 Packard 180
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The car was sold in Boston Mass on 7/16/40. I will stop by the garage where I store it and get the Vin.

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