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What year are these cars? 1939?

One has 120 on the side mount spare, the other is a twelve?

What kind of a hood ornament is that?

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What year are these cars? 1939?

One has 120 on the side mount spare, the other is a twelve?

What kind of a hood ornament is that?


Let the ride decide, in front of the last pic FDR sits in a blue 1939 V12, furnished with special hood ornament. Today the car is shown at the Toyota Automobile Museum.

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FDR or his staff had a partiality for individual hood ornaments. Take a look at this one, embellishing his 1932 Twin Six 905 (body style 570) with the New York governor's fleet insignia.

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pic #2 - Hemmings

Posted on: 2019/8/5 0:27
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Owing to his considerate, down-to-earth style, King Olav (2 July 1903 - 17 January 1991) was immensely popular, resulting in the nickname Folkekongen ("The People's King"). Below shown is the majestic 1942 Packard of the former King of Norway.

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Posted on: 2019/8/19 5:21
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If I don't dig it up, somebody else can dig up an article about that 42 Packard conking out in the middle of an intersection in Oslo.

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If I don't dig it up, somebody else can dig up an article about that 42 Packard conking out in the middle of an intersection in Oslo.


Tim, I did my best but no success.
When looking at the interrior image below, then the following questions raised:

1) What is the function of the metallic widget?

2) A/C?



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Posted on: 2019/8/20 6:33
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I'll find it.

The round silver thing is the microphone to the chauffeur.

A/C was a trunk mounted unit with the vent on the rear shelf behind the seat.

The grille in the floor is for a heater, which is probably an add on for this car given the standard method was to route under the seat heat from the front through grilles in the seat back. After all, Norway was pretty cold in 1942, especially the winter of 1941 where temperatures were -70C.
I don't think we will ever see that again.

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That has to be one of only a handful of '42 180 Touring Limousines by LeBaron and possibly the best original survivor. Thanks for look at that rarity. An additional heater would be expected for that part of the world. On the other hand, A/C would be an unnecessary extravagance.

The King didn't update his limousines too often. The Cadillac 75 limousines are a 1951 and a 1980-'85. The latter is difficult to pinpoint by appearance, it is among those last years a Fleetwood rwd lwb chassis was built.

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Posted on: 2019/8/20 12:15
.....epigram time.....
Proud 1953 Clipper Deluxe owner. Thinking about my next Packard, want a Clipper Deluxe Eight, manual shift with overdrive.
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The article is in the 1971 Number 4 Classic Car Club magazine. You can see it on the museum website.

And the car did have air conditioning.

I'd paste some of it but there is copyright plastered on it.

I used to have all of my copies way back, but they didn't survive when I moved overseas. That's okay because my memory seems to be holding up.

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