Re: 1940 160 convertible sedan

Posted by Joe Santana On 2018/3/12 20:12:32

The comment I referenced was ad hominem not machina. The comments by other posters, some of the most respected Packard guys on this forum, about the seller and the vehicle were based on false assumptions...that have been clarified.

Only 149 1940 160 1377 Convertible Sedans were produced.
About 22-25 survive.

Somewhere exists a letter of Feb 5, 1940 that itemizes mid-year changes. I've read it but can't find it now. It gives reasons why the changes were made, mainly, some dealers didn't like some style items, re: hubcaps (paraphrased): "The red hexagon is a Packard trademark. The Packard script is a Packard trademark. One should not be stuck on top of the other." (The only reason, from a designer's standpoint, is that the combination looks so much better, and, it was used profusely for parts and service.)

Differences in early (Aug 18, 1939-Feb 1940) 1940 model 160 and late (Feb 1940 - July 1940)

1. Aug 31,'39: The fleur-de-lis trunk medallion was replaced by a Packard crest shield medallion. (Even my announcement day car was changed to the new crest.)

2. Added 3 'speed' chrome strips on the sides of the sidemount covers
3. Eliminated the Packard script-hexagon hubcap for a hexagon surrounded Packard and by the model number.
4. Changed the wood grain from silver aspen grain pattern and color to another.
5. Replaced the friction vent window with a cranked version
6. Data Plate of 5-column patent list (ending in RE-18,866) replaced by 4-column list (ending in DE-114-114,358).
7. Door panels changed. Leather extended to the bottom of the doors like the 120 on early models. Later models have carpeting across the bottom section, which may have eliminated some scuffing.
8. Marble Fudge dash plastic parts replaced with solid tan or grey. (I still have many fudge parts).

Your statement that 75% of all 1940 160 convertible sedans are "made up cars" is pure conjecture. There are at least 22 such models owned by PAC and PI members who may disagree.

Take consolation in the fact that everyone makes mistakes, but reckless statements about particular models may injure others.

I'm not worried. I have my original data plate, but I wouldn't put that piece of trash on my restored car. It makes me think of the guy, who points out that a screw head isn't correct, whose Caribbean is rusting on its hubs in his backyard, all-original, of course.

You may call it a public forum, but few posters use a genuine, original name as I do. Most use made-up names.