Regarding your comment of "The comment I referenced was ad hominem not machina." I have no idea what your fancy latin? words mean. I do know that if someone is selling a 160 Convertible coupe or Convertible sedan and expect to get 160 money, you better be able to prove it and just not by conjecture. With all of these known 1940 model year changes you mentioned, it sure is easy to make one up now since the knowledge is there.
My statement that 75% of all 1940-42 senior convertibles are "made up cars" is INDEED PURE conjecture. But pure conjecture I've heard first hand from the experts, who own and restore them. You read my reply as "Your statement that 75% of all 1940 160 convertible sedans are "made up cars" is pure conjecture." You sure did not read what I wrote at all. I used for my percentage point of 75% ALL 1940-42 senior open cars, NOT SPECIFICALLY 1940 160 Convertible sedans. 1941's are cloned at a higher % rate, by conjecture of course. Please re-read what I actually wrote and not how you read it to be.
Regarding your statement "I'm not worried. I have my original data plate, but I wouldn't put that piece of trash on my restored car" Did anyone say you needed to put it on the car? We said it needed to be kept for authenticity purposes. To someone with no original plate: Why would you get rid of an original data plate and discard it??? by the way, your car is simply gorgeous and your long ownership history and dedication to restore it is truly awe-inspiring!
Your point was that this seller got way less money for his convertible sedan due to this forum and the fine folks on it. This forum merely "originally" questioned the fact that it could be a made-up car and apparently the eBay listing "at the time" did not convince the bidders of this also. Folks even KINDLY apologized for their statements that were incorrect. I guess you don't accept apologies? I've sure learned to accept them in life.
On your 1930 734 Speedster reference, I assume "pointy" means runabout or boattail speedster? Well here's two of them for sale now by the same dealer: The legit documented car is priced at over three times the price of the repro bodied car. Thus; a documented verifiable car is substantially more valuable and collectible than a clone, or unproven legit car, as was my point.
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