Re: Henry's 37 Limousine
Posted by Cli55er On 2016/10/1 12:24:30
Thanks HH. the first one is reproduced by Steele for sure. the second one does give me ideas though. we will see what noise are produced upon reassembly and first run.
Fred.....first picture is for you. how you like those new front motor mount rubbers? lol j/k hehe
okay....so....
motor is completely stripped. 9am to 4pm including moving things around and going to "shop" to get cherry picker only to return to get load balancer for said hoist. then went to machine shop to drop it all off.
this motor has been messed with before in the past. bearings were aftermarket for sure. cotter pins in rod bolts all different sizes.
pistons not as nice as thought....not sure if they are repos or not, but they have been knurled...so those are out and new ones will be put in after boring.
number 6 piston is of interest. had some sort of spring loaded thing inside the piston and I could not remove the piston from the top because the rocker arm was too wide to fit through the cylinder by just a fraction of a small amount. could I have hammered it through..yup...but that would have screwed up the cylinder. so out the bottom end it went....once I got it out with a the wooden butt end of mallet...notice nasty gouge in bottom of piston...weird cause I never hammered on that. not a good pic of the gouge sorry. cylinder wall looked fine though..mystery for sure. rod appeared to be a Packard rod. any ideas on this mystery piston? desperate attempt to get motor running again in it early life maybe?? ideas appreciated, especially as to why it has the spring retainer and the others do not.
I could put number 6 piston into other bores rocker first...it would stick....any other piston in any other bore would slide fine.
all of the bearings look like good normal wear, but will be replacing anyways. crank had fingernail felt groove from bearings. not bad.
hopfully this thing is standard and we can go to .010 on all...if not then obviously .020 is next and so on.
all studs will be removed...decked...everything checked over and blah blah blah...basically a full rebuild.
thankfully when we were cleaning up my Uncle's shop (when he passed) I snagged several tools, including this valve spring compressor, which I believe was my Grandfather's to begin with. I can't tell you how helpful that bad boy was. I'm glad I snagged it.
machinist was wondering why I took out all of the rod bolts. I said they just fell out. He was thinking they were supposed to be pressed in....but I can tell you they just fell right out when the nut came off. I know some more modern cars had them pressed in...but should they have been on this motor? I don't think they were in 1937
I did not see a rear main rope seal either...so that was confusing as the gasket kit I ordered came with one. I and the machinist noticed the flange on the crank that goes in the groove where one would expect to put a rope rear main seal....so any thoughts there guys????
Had to work on the motor on the hoist.... not the best idea but it's all I had. I do have a 2 ton stand, but I'm not sure it'll hold this straight 8 block. I guess we will see how creative I get upon assembly.
wooden floor board rotting....will cut new one. all the parts left over from motor will get a good washing and repainting.
forgot.....head has no cracks...so good news there.
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Fred.....first picture is for you. how you like those new front motor mount rubbers? lol j/k hehe
okay....so....
motor is completely stripped. 9am to 4pm including moving things around and going to "shop" to get cherry picker only to return to get load balancer for said hoist. then went to machine shop to drop it all off.
this motor has been messed with before in the past. bearings were aftermarket for sure. cotter pins in rod bolts all different sizes.
pistons not as nice as thought....not sure if they are repos or not, but they have been knurled...so those are out and new ones will be put in after boring.
number 6 piston is of interest. had some sort of spring loaded thing inside the piston and I could not remove the piston from the top because the rocker arm was too wide to fit through the cylinder by just a fraction of a small amount. could I have hammered it through..yup...but that would have screwed up the cylinder. so out the bottom end it went....once I got it out with a the wooden butt end of mallet...notice nasty gouge in bottom of piston...weird cause I never hammered on that. not a good pic of the gouge sorry. cylinder wall looked fine though..mystery for sure. rod appeared to be a Packard rod. any ideas on this mystery piston? desperate attempt to get motor running again in it early life maybe?? ideas appreciated, especially as to why it has the spring retainer and the others do not.
I could put number 6 piston into other bores rocker first...it would stick....any other piston in any other bore would slide fine.
all of the bearings look like good normal wear, but will be replacing anyways. crank had fingernail felt groove from bearings. not bad.
hopfully this thing is standard and we can go to .010 on all...if not then obviously .020 is next and so on.
all studs will be removed...decked...everything checked over and blah blah blah...basically a full rebuild.
thankfully when we were cleaning up my Uncle's shop (when he passed) I snagged several tools, including this valve spring compressor, which I believe was my Grandfather's to begin with. I can't tell you how helpful that bad boy was. I'm glad I snagged it.
machinist was wondering why I took out all of the rod bolts. I said they just fell out. He was thinking they were supposed to be pressed in....but I can tell you they just fell right out when the nut came off. I know some more modern cars had them pressed in...but should they have been on this motor? I don't think they were in 1937
I did not see a rear main rope seal either...so that was confusing as the gasket kit I ordered came with one. I and the machinist noticed the flange on the crank that goes in the groove where one would expect to put a rope rear main seal....so any thoughts there guys????
Had to work on the motor on the hoist.... not the best idea but it's all I had. I do have a 2 ton stand, but I'm not sure it'll hold this straight 8 block. I guess we will see how creative I get upon assembly.
wooden floor board rotting....will cut new one. all the parts left over from motor will get a good washing and repainting.
forgot.....head has no cracks...so good news there.
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