Re: First Production 1955 Patrician

Posted by Leeedy On 2014/7/8 19:05:57
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BryanMoran wrote:
Leeedy and 55Packardconv

Thanks. Leeedy I understand there was a 56 Packard and in theory that years models would start with 1001 but I think we can all agree that the Patrician appeals to us because it was the 1st of the last, meaning the last 2 years combined saw the 1st V8, torsion bars, styling theme, etc and this makes the Patrician special.

Had there been an all new 57 Packard with enough changes to differentiate it from the 55-56's then this discussion would be moot. After all, we don't care as much about any other years 1001.

I really enjoyed the analysis re: body color and Nance getting on production chiefs about single tones. THAT explains a lot and then to add the commentary about why it would be all Ivory is even more telling (re: dark colors show more defects).

That is what I was looking for.

White only came into being as a production color in the late 40's early 50's. By the way I think the car would look nice restored in white with some Packard spec wire wheels ala the Caribbean.

Finally, though some may disagree - I think the point about there being 4 or 5 1001 cars in 1955 means the seller should not be stating the Patrician was the 1st 1955 Packard made. This post does not even call it the 1st 1955 Packard. It states First Production 1955 Patrician.

Somewhere out there could be a 1001 400, Clipper, etc. Unlikely, but possible.

Finally, finally, as a follower of the Mark II Continental, their historian has done a fantastic job of documenting all 3000 or so of the Mark II's including a few mules and pre-production cars. Some of the pre-production cars survive and one was for sale last year and I attempted to buy it unsuccessfully.

Arguably, the Mark II Continental, made in 1956 and 1957 only, was well documented from the factory and the interested collectors have the data information from the factory and maintain a data base, now in an age when that is more recordable then ever.

I suppose some factory documentation either went up in smoke (literally) or was removed by workers in the Packard plant back in 1956. I find it hard to believe that factory documentation did not exist at one time for this (Patrician)car and every 1001 in 1955 and 1956.

Thanks again for the fine commentary. Keep it coming.


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Somewhere there is (or was) indeed a 1955 Four Hundred 1001, Caribbean 1001, Clippers 1001, etc. And this is not unlikely at all. Some of these vehicles are indeed known and certainly there are records that did not go "up in smoke." This stuff may not be on the internet, but that does not mean it doesn't exist.

Stating "first 1955 production Patrician" is certainly a valid thing to say. Nothing wrong with that. But this does not mean it was the first 1955 production Packard.

RE: the Mark II Continental... those were not done "at the factory" but in fact were done on their own separate and limited assembly line at Mitchell-Bentley... same place where 1953 and 1954 Packard Caribbeans were converted. By the way, one of the supposedly early Mark IIs is presently up for sale.

And maintaining a database for Mark II is a relatively easy matter. But when you flip the switch over to doing this same thing for Packard and Clipper for 1955 and 1956, you are talking about a very large number of vehicles, models and equipment. Big difference. Apples and watermelons. There, of course are roster keepers for these vehicles and I do believe one roster for V8 Packards is (or at least used to be) available via the Packard Club.

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