Re: 1956 Packard air conditioning system

Posted by Packard Don On 2023/7/18 22:24:10
What little I’ve learned actually came from the Imperial Club’s posting on the issue so to plagiarize it, here is one of the detailed postings:

Excellent Tips from Tony Dickson:

Both R406A and GHG-X4 (now called "Autofrost", "Chill-it," and other names) are 100 percent legal for use in cars.

As far as using a modern R134a refrigerant (like in a 1995 Neon) with a new dryer, compressor, hoses, etc. here is my experience: You're looking at replacing some components either way, but the switch to R406A is going to require MUCH less expense, MANY fewer new parts, and will yield MUCH better performance and efficiency than R134a. Basically, DO NOT(!) convert your R12 car to R134a or any of the R134a-based refrigerants (FRIGC comes to mind). They are far less efficient than R12 and R406A, GHG-X4, etc. Also, they are HIGHLY incompatible with R12-type oil. They operate at radically different pressures, so calibration of R12 expansion valves won't be optimal. Also, since 134a is so inefficient, one must use larger compressors, condensers, and evaporators to get the same level of cooling as from an R12 system. This is difficult and expensive to do on an existing system, so you get much less cooling with 134a. To convert to 134a PROPERLY so as not to shell any of the components, you're going to need:

a) All new hoses (The R12 hoses are permeable to the smaller R134a molecule)

b) All new seals and O-rings (ditto above)

c) A rebuild of your V2/RV2 compressor (because this compressor design uses an oil sump and pump which cannot be "flushed" of oil like other non-sump type designs, and because 134a is so violently incompatible with 12-type oil, you have to get ALL of the old oil out.)

d) New receiver-dryer with XH7 or XH9 desiccant

e) And you should really purchase a parallel-flow condenser to try and make the system work at least marginally, if not optimally well.

Now let's compare that to using R406a or GHG-X4:

They are MORE efficient than 12, yet it operates at similar pressures, so the expansion valve calibration will remain optimal and your existing condenser and evaporator will function MORE than adequately.

They are completely compatible with R12 type oil, so no system flush or expensive compressor rebuild.

You still need new hoses, because R12 type hoses are permeable to the smaller R406a factions' molecules.

Ditto new seals. (New hose-to-hose and component-to-component seals, you don't have to mess with any compressor or other internal seals).

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