Re: Packard V-8 CID race What if?

Posted by Jack Vines On 2011/2/12 13:21:52
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There was one company which could have benefited had Packard management shopped the engine to truckmakers when they were in development stage, that being International Harvester. That they didn't shop it around, given their experience with White and the 245 c.i. six, is just puzzling. IH would begin offering it's own V-8 in 1957, at what must have been tremendous expense for a relatively small company. Had Packard contracted to supply IH engines begining in 1955, IH would have been obliged to assume production and further development after 1956. However unglamorous its application, IH would have corrected whatever shortcoming the engine had in subsequent iterations. As I recall, IH had displacements up to 534 c.i.. Other than being thirsty, it was one rugged, long-lived engine.


All the large gas V6, V8 and V12 truck engines were inherently thirsty.

It's never just about engineering. It's always about money. Two thoughts:

One problem with adapting the Packard V8 to truck duty was it has such small main bearings and weak bearing webs in the block, it would have required a lot of work on the patterns and cores. The fix would have been easy to do, but no one saw enough value to take it on.

During that time frame, Ford tooled up for a big truck V8, GMC made truck-specific V6 and V12 engines, IH designed their own small-to-large V8s. Dodge is the only one I don't remember having a truck-specific engine. The Chrysler hemi was used in a few medium trucks.

Since none of these manufacturers wanted anything to do with the Packard V8 for truck use and GM even passed on it for their big block cars, there must have been some inherent design problems they didn't care to tackle.

Another possibility, since the S-P bailout with Curtiss-Wright was a Republican-engineered dodge to allow the S-P losses to be applied against the C-W government contract profits, possibly it was an even larger tax avoidance if all the new engine tooling investment was scrapped as a total loss.

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After six months of negotiations, Curtiss-Wright and Studebaker-Packard finally came to terms last week on "Operation Rescue." The two companies will not merge--at least not right away. But they will tie themselves together under a "joint program" agreement, with Curtiss-Wright running Studebaker-Packard and taking an option on enough Studebaker stock for a formal merger later on. For Enginemaker Curtiss the big bait was the promise of some $500 million in new defense contracts from the Pentagon. Up to now, failure of such contracts to come through had been the major stumbling block. Though the Administration was anxious to save Studebaker, it was worried about the political effects of such a rescue operation. But now both companies have solid promises of contracts, spread over several years. $50 Million for Now. For Studebaker the bait was equally tempting: $35 million in cash from Curtiss, enough to keep the company in business. Curtiss will buy all Studebaker's defense inventories (mostly jet engine parts), take a twelve-year lease on two plants at Utica, Mich, and South Bend, Ind. In addition, Studebaker's bank credit (it has already borrowed $29.8 million) will be raised to $45 million, thus giving it a total of $50 million for immediate needs. There is a chance for more. If Curtiss decides to merge and exercises its stock option within the next two years, it will pay $25 million for 5,000,000 shares of Studebaker stock. The merged company will also be able to apply Studebaker's big $70 million tax loss against overall profits. After six months of negotiations, Curtiss-Wright and Studebaker-Packard finally came to terms last week on "Operation Rescue." The two companies will not merge--at least not right away. But they will tie themselves together under a "joint program" agreement, with Curtiss-Wright running Studebaker-Packard and taking an option on enough Studebaker stock for a formal merger later on. For Enginemaker Curtiss the big bait was the promise of some $500 million in new defense contracts from the Pentagon. Up to now, failure of such contracts to come through had been the major stumbling block. Though the Administration was anxious to save Studebaker, it was worried about the political effects of such a rescue operation. But now both companies have solid promises of contracts, spread over several years. $50 Million for Now. For Studebaker the bait was equally tempting: $35 million in cash from Curtiss, enough to keep the company in business. Curtiss will buy all Studebaker's defense inventories (mostly jet engine parts), take a twelve-year lease on two plants at Utica, Mich, and South Bend, Ind. In addition, Studebaker's bank credit (it has already borrowed $29.8 million) will be raised to $45 million, thus giving it a total of $50 million for immediate needs. There is a chance for more. If Curtiss decides to merge and exercises its stock option within the next two years, it will pay $25 million for 5,000,000 shares of Studebaker stock. The merged company will also be able to apply Studebaker's big $70 million tax loss against overall profits. Predictors & Mercedes. Under the present deal, Studebaker will consolidate all automaking at South Bend, leaving the defense business to Curtiss. With its new funds, it will be able to bring out a 1957 Studebaker line on schedule. However it will probably stop making Packards for a year, wait until 1958, when it can develop an interchangeable body shell with Studebaker along the lines of its Packard Predictor dream car. Another possibility: that West Germany's Daimler-Benz will come in on the agreement, use Studebaker's dealer setup to distribute Mercedes cars and trucks in the U.S. Eventually, Studebaker might also build Mercedes products in the U.S. President James Nance will step down as Studebaker's chief executive, remain only as a consultant to the board of directors. Into his place will go Harold E. Churchill, 53, Studebaker's general manager, who has been with the company since 1926. But the real boss will be Curtiss-Wright President Roy T. Hurley, himself a veteran automan, who learned the fine points of the industry as Ford's director of manufacturing. Taking over Curtiss in 1949 when it was doing poorly, he cut costs and boosted production so effectively that the company turned a profit of $35 million in 1955. Now, with the Studebaker-Packard deal, he is going back to a business he knows even better.


jack vines

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