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Re: Starting a 1929 Packard 8 with straight 8 and Detroit Lubricator Carb.
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Ernie Vitucci
Good morning. We drive a 23rd series. We find OO cables with a second ground cable necessary, then a strong battery…and clean connections all the way to clean points make a Hugh difference. Recently Miss Prudence turned over slower than usual. A new battery with 800 cold cranking amps and she fired right up. Fast cranking to pull fuel, careful use of the choke…You machine sounds to me like weak battery as she does fine when primed and warm. Ernie in Arizona

Posted on: 2023/11/23 10:20
Caretaker of the 1949-288 Deluxe Touring Sedan
'Miss Prudence' and the 1931 Model A Ford Tudor 'Miss Princess'
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Re: 1941 Clipper Badge
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dallas
The Packard script on the trunk lid of the 1941-47
Clippers is the same. It has 2 mounting pins and is
part number 375038. It is listed in the 1941-47
Packard master parts book under Group 31.1893.

I have a NOS script for sale if interested.

Posted on: 2023/11/23 9:45
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Re: Starting a 1929 Packard 8 with straight 8 and Detroit Lubricator Carb.
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TxGoat
The electric fuel pump may be flooding the engine due to too much pressure. "Flooding" does not mean you would see wet plugs. You should never see wet spark plugs. You should never see fuel drip from the carburetor unless you have over-used the choke.
To start a typical updraft carburetor engine when cold, especially after sitting for days, or in colder weather, it is normally necessary to use the choke. Open the throttle part way, close the choke, then crank the engine for 2 to 5 seconds, then open the choke halfway and crank the engine. That will start most engines if everything is in good order. A weak or undersized battery or undersized, skinny, or corroded cables, or a dragging starter can kill the ignition system during cranking. That makes starting very difficult to impossible, but if the engine does start, it will usually run OK and may start easily once warmed up.
An engine can be well-worn and still start fairly easily

Posted on: 2023/11/23 9:40
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Re: 1924 Sport
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Karl
Hello Mal, Dave and Gerd (Gerd is right...right?)
Thanks for the information and the email addresses for Mr. Babinsky.
I have now sent both of them an email. And I hope that at least
Someone who has and also gives out information that makes it possible
to recreate the muffler. I already have most of the materials here.
Gerd, thank you for the information that was posted on the auction page. In the long time I have been searching the Internet for pictures and information about my 136 Sport, I have already seen one or two pictures of this vehicle. I also have some pictures of the original design door leather and door panels from other 1924-1926 models which are all identical. But so far I haven't had any pictures that show other parts of the interior specifically for the 136 with this clarity. All card boards are already prepared and still need to be covert with the new laether. I have the necessary Trim Hidem in stock anyway. Unfortunately, the dark red of the Hidem that I chose for the leather didn't match the leather color perfectly. That's why I had a specialist company mix the color that matches the leather exactly and will dye the trim material accordingly. A test showed that it really fits the leather perfectly. I hate it when good leather work is disqualified by differend color on the material. When the opportunity arises, I will show these photos in detail in my yet-to-be-created blog.

Karl

Posted on: 2023/11/23 8:54
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Re: 1924 Sport
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Guscha
Mal, Dave walked past us, unimpressed by our circus. He had the home advantage because Mr. Babinski runs his business in the immediate vicinity.

Karl,-> this 1924 Packard has undergone a sympathetic mechanical recommissioning under the supervision of Mr. Babinski. Please take a look at the leather door panels.

Posted on: 2023/11/23 5:42
The story of ZIS-110, ZIS-115, ZIL-111 & Chaika GAZ-13 on www.guscha.de
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Re: 1941 Clipper Badge
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CCR
Filling the holes may in fact be a requirement but just trying to balance as much returning to original as I am able. The interior in the car, while in decent shape, was definitely redone in a style that lets just say it's somewhere between hopping cars and pimp delight red.

Posted on: 2023/11/23 0:39
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Re: Interference of R/H turn signal light socket with A/C duct
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Leeedy
Quote:

Pete '56 wrote:

I realize repeated copying documents has a somewhat I realize repeated copying documents has a somewhat "shrinking" effect of the scale on the drawing. The Packard template number was 475210. I wouldn't think that this "shrink" would cause something to be around 1/16 to 1/8 inch off. R/H side is good, though.

I don't have any service bulletins with regard to the A/C system, are there?

I live in San Diego and at the time I did the dash mods, over 3 years ago, there were no '55 or "56 A/C cars, that I knew of among the club members.


San Diego, huh?

I can absolutely, positively assure you, there were at least 5 Packard V-8s in SoCal with factory air at that time... and probably now.

As for an A/C Caribbean in San Diego? Ohhhhhh there is/was a black 1956 Caribbean there with factory air. I used to drive it in the 1970s. Last time I heard, it was still in San Diego.

Ask Gerry at Southwest Packards... right there in your area.

Posted on: 2023/11/22 23:21
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Re: Interference of R/H turn signal light socket with A/C duct
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Pete '56
Even if the templates were accurate (and it's always a possibility they were not), I would double-check before doing cuts and installation.

Having worked for many years of my career at the OEM level of the car biz, I can assure you: specifications get changed. Often several times. Were those templates merely templates? Or final specification templates?

Furthermore, paper templates (or copies thereof) passed around all these years through machines, scanners and internet and how many hands just allow for too many bad outcomes.

Even workshop manuals get out in publication with errors in them. Usually such things are remedied with Service Bulletins. But this is just the nature of the car biz.

Again... I always check with an actual production-level car. Compare what you have with an actual system installed at the factory. Take measurements and photos. There are a bunch of Packard V-8 factory A/C vehicles still alive and breathing in this world– even in 2023.[/quote]

I realize repeated copying documents has a somewhat "shrinking" effect of the scale on the drawing. The Packard template number was 475210. I wouldn't think that this "shrink" would cause something to be around 1/16 to 1/8 inch off. R/H side is good, though.

I don't have any service bulletins with regard to the A/C system, are there?

I live in San Diego and at the time I did the dash mods, over 3 years ago, there were no '55 or "56 A/C cars, that I knew of among the club members.

Posted on: 2023/11/22 22:14
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Re: 5699 parts questions
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Leeedy
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Packard Filip wrote:
I am about to acquire a "project in progress" Caribbean Convertible '56. I want to know whether anyone knows about the availability of the following parts as they're from what I know so far, the hardest to find. They are nowhere to be found with the car, and I doubt I can find these here in Sweden.

First off is 469453, the solid bow which the windshield is attached to, parts book refers to it as "upper" under "rim - finishing outside". I expect this one to be quite hard to find, but I have the option of either milling or casting a new one here in Sweden. I assume the part is originally cast in zamac as the other cast trim pieces. I know that casting/milling it in brass or bronze will change the weight of it, but not by how much. Maybe best to use zamac if possible.

Then, the other two parts I've in mind so far are the dual carburetors which are both missing. So that'd be parts no. 6489090 & 6489091. Fully restored ones are not necessary but appreciated too, as long as they exist in a passably restorable form. Doubt I can find these here, and I have no clue what happened to them when the car was imported 25-30 years ago, or whether they even existed on the car then.

If anyone has these or knows where I could find them, I'd appreciate knowing it. There are also more parts to follow, however I do not know which are hard to get as of yet.


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You are describing what In the convertible business in the USA would be commonly known as a "header bow."

On Caribbeans this component is made of an alloy one step or two up from Kirksite. You will certainly want to avoid going to the extreme of casting or milling such a component. And even if you did perform such a casting or milling, you really don't want to change the metal.

Weight and balance here are extremely critical (aside from mating two dissimilar metals). Anything that would upset the weight and balance could be disastrous to the power top mechanism and overall operation. Plus you would need to fabricate not merely the header bow, but also the tack strip retainer, tack strip, seal, and latches. That's a lot!

You are better off looking for existing parts. There are indeed parts around, but it will take a lot of looking.

Good luck.

Posted on: 2023/11/22 22:12
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Re: Packard Bikes
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Leeedy
So. We showed you the early Classic Bicycle Era headbadge for Colson-built Packard bicycles. Now here is the headbadge design that followed.

What we show here is New Old Stock (NOS) never mounted, never drilled, never bent brass. But you can get an excellent idea of the original appearance, including colors and plating.

By the way, SOME of these were brass while others were made of aluminum. On the brass headbadges, the raised areas were nickel plated. On the aluminum versions, the raised areas were simply natural silvery look of aluminum.

Image is courtesy of Leon Dion / National Bicycle History Archive of America (NBHAA.com).

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Posted on: 2023/11/22 21:52
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