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Re: 56 TL suspension inoperative
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Kip56
Thanks for the congrats but more importantly thank you all for the collective TL education. You can only learn so much in books!

Brian, I appreciate the detail you provided. Using Randy's example really hits home! For the moment I am okay with the level but may try as you suggested to cautiously bump the orange wire led solenoid to raise the back little by little to see if it makes any difference. Otherwise, I am going to be patient and wait until I get some of the front end sheet metal back on the car to see if the compensator will adjust.

And believe me I stay out from under that 5000 lb. car whenever possible...especially when the battery is connected

Please provide additional clarification from your statement below:

"BTW, you'll wanna wait to cinch the bolts for the rubber control arm bushings until the car is fully assembled"

You're talking about the pivot pins?

Thanks, Robert.

Posted on: 2007/7/10 14:55
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Re: 56 TL suspension inoperative
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Gents,

I was able to get in the garage last night and thanks to the great suggestions from this forum made some significant progress.

First the test lamp was invaluable. How I made it this far using a volt meter I'll never know!

Started from the red lead to the starter - good. Then to the 30amp fuse - bad and replaced. Then to the 7.5amp fuse - good. Then to the buss bar - good. Then it got very interesting.

So I look up from the engine compartment for a moment and notice that my brake lights are on reflecting against the garage door. Knowing that I swapped the brake switch on Saturday and may have miswired, I swapped the light green wire (top) and the dark green wire (bottom) and the brake lights go off...the solenoid clicks, TL motor comes on, and the rear of the car raises about 2" inches! What a wonderful sound!

Next, took a ground strap and touched the middle post (orange wire) of the first solenoid and it clicked as it should. Then took the ground strap and touched the middle post of the second solenoid (blue wire) and it clicked as it should. So I believe both solenoids are good. At this point, I believe it is back to its original state.

So back to the original issue, the front end is up and the top control arms are against the frame bumpers but the back is normal over the rear tires. Is there a way to bring the front down with the TL motor or is there simply not enough weight up front for the TL system to work properly?

Thanks again for all the help!
Robert.

Posted on: 2007/7/10 9:11
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Re: 56 TL suspension inoperative
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Thanks Mr. Pushbutton and BH for your feedback. I will endeavor to check the solenoids with a negative ground wire and will make a 12v test light for additional testing. I hope to get to this in the next couple of days. I will report back with my findings.

Regards,
Robert.

Posted on: 2007/7/9 12:35
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Re: 56 TL suspension inoperative
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Randy good question. I have all the electrical mounted on a long piece of steel mounted off the firewall where you would normally attach the handbrake mechanism. I will try your suggestion and run a ground wire to see if either solenoid will actuate.

Thanks,
Robert.

Posted on: 2007/7/9 7:56
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Re: 56 TL suspension inoperative
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Packard V8 - I will give that a try and report back. Thanks!

HH56 - No sounds whatsoever. Did not hear the solenoids click as I am accustomed to hearing. I did swap the brake switch thinking along those lines but no change. Would the brake fluid level make any difference? I have not bled the lines. I did push the back end of the car down as well and nothing.

Mr. Pushbutton - The engine is in the car just no fenders, bumpers or hood. I had that similar thought and added about 350 lbs. to the front end (me and my oldest son) and no change.

At my next opportunity I will break out the volt meter.

Thanks guys!
Robert.

Posted on: 2007/7/9 6:47
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56 TL suspension inoperative
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I removed the J-6065 holding tools today after reattaching the load arms/links to the lower control arms and reinstalled the drums and tires. After checking all the solenoid wiring and fuses I switched the TL system back to the on position expecting the car to adjust back to level.

Nothing happened. The TL system was working fine when I started this project a year and a half ago and I did not touch any of the TL wiring. I double checked the fuses and searched for any loose connections but came up empty. The upper control arms are pretty much mashed against the frame bumper stop. (Picture attached.)

I am looking for trouble shooting suggestions as gremlins seem to have taken up residence in my suspension.

Thanks,
Robert.

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Posted on: 2007/7/8 18:27
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Re: Being Well Grounded
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Dan,

My experience on my 56 Carib matches the comments of Packard V8. I have attached a picture of the strap from the back of the cylinder head to the firewall and the only other ground is the front of the opposite cylinder head to the negative battery post.

Robert.

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Posted on: 2007/7/6 8:29
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Re: Randy Berger's 1956 Caribbean
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WOW! Absolutely fascinating and impressive!! I will keep on the look out for a short cab 3245!

Robert.

Posted on: 2007/7/6 8:13
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Re: Randy Berger's 1956 Caribbean
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Randy,

With your extensive knowledge of Packards, and it being your #2 hobby, I can only imagine your passion for trains!
I am fortunate to have a single Lionel train set that was a wedding gift to my parents. I break it out every Christmas. Something very sentimental about those old trains.

Regards,
Robert.

Posted on: 2007/7/6 6:42
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Re: Randy Berger's 1956 Caribbean
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Randy,

The six Caribbean convertibles that had the factory wire wheel option are listed as:

1049
1084
1116
1117
1167
1228

Congrats on the successful reinstallation of the TL motor and repair of the limit switches. Excellent progress. One day I need to send you some pics of my Lionel General Lee train set.

Regards,
Robert.

Posted on: 2007/7/5 21:21
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