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49 23 Series- Won't start.
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Paul E. Gallagher
I have had an off and on problem since a I got the car with a dead electrical on restart after the engine is warmed and has sat for 15 min. or so. Several pumps on the accelerator and it took off. Now it will not turn over at all, when I turn on the switch and depress the gas pedal, the only thing working is the gauges.

I tried cleaning the ball bearing in the starter switch, could I have reassembled it wrong? First is the spring, then the metal contacts, then the silver metal "cup" that the ball rides in, and then the ball. I have the "cup" facing down. Any manuals that show the right assembly?

With help from past forum, the battery is charged, the voltage regulator was new when I got the car last year, the starter solenoid was replaced, and I checked the ground from the battery as Owen suggested with one side of a jumper cable.

Any suggestions on what else to try.

Posted on: 2008/10/4 20:05
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Re: DEAD ELECTRICAL
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Thanks to everyone for all your great replies.

I disconnected the positive cable to the engine tonight and cleaned that end. It wasn't all that tight.

Next I took a good look at the terminal. it appearded to be tight, but looked like the metal was staring to crack. When I took it off the battery, it started to come apart.

I replaced the terminal with a universal. (if anyone thinks a whole new cable would work better (look better, too)I could get a new one.

I drove it for several miles and then turned it off and let it sit for 15 minutes.

It started right back up! I'll try it again when its warmer outside, (about 80 today) and see what happens;

Thanks again for all your interest and replies.

Posted on: 2008/8/3 22:01
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Re: Gas Tank Relining
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Paul E. Gallagher
I used GAS TANK RE-NU on my 67 Plymouth and it worked great for the 9 years I had the car. They are a franchise that re coats the inside and outside of the tank with a rubberized epoxy coating. They have a couple of dealers in the Detroit area and advertise in Hemmings. It cost about $350 or so but it was worth it and they guarantee against leaks for as long as you own the car.

I'd still be driving that Plymouth, but along came this Packard..... you folks know the rest of the story!

Posted on: 2008/8/1 14:47
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DEAD ELECTRICAL
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Paul E. Gallagher
23 SERIES 288 ENGINE
The car starts fine cold or on restart after it has been running. BUT
if it is hot outside and I try to restart after sitting about 15 minutes, the starting system goes dead, no cranking, no clicking. The gauges react with the switch and the interior lights are working.
It will then take off after several tries. (it has not failed to restart at this point, but I am getting a little scared of its reliability)

When it does this, the engine compartment seems hot when I raise the hood, like the engine is getting hotter after it has sat without the motor on. I just had the radiator re cord and installed a new 160 degree thermostat.

The starter solenoid was replaced last Fall and the voltage regulator appears to be new.

ANY IDEAS on what to check?

Posted on: 2008/8/1 14:37
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Re: 23 Series - Overheating 288 engine
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Paul E. Gallagher
I installed a 160 degree thermostat today and it seemed to help. The temp gauge didn't spike to hot at idle like it did before. The thermostat had in fact been removed when last serviced before I bought it. I'm glad someone pointed out about the retaining ring because I then knew to look for it. Thankfully, they left it in the outlet so I only had to get the thermostat itself. I went with the 160 degree at Jay's suggestion, and also the AEA tune-up sheet I downloaded said that it could open at 148 to 156 degrees.

It was only about 80 degrees here today, but it ran just a little higher then center on the gauge, came to normal at about 40 mph, and I let it idle for 10 to 15 minutes after it was hot and the gauge only went to about halfway between center and hot. It cooled back down to center after driving a bit.

We'll see what happens on a hotter day, but at least
I had no problems with hard restart when it was running a while.
Thanks again for all your interest.

Posted on: 2008/7/23 20:32
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Re: 23 Series - Overheating 288 engine
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Paul E. Gallagher
Thanks Owen and Jay. Do you think a new thermostat would keep the engine cooler when iding?. I don't quite understand the purpose of the themostat other then helping with heat in the Winter. The man who installed the radiator said it was either removed or stuck open. Do I have to get one from a Packard supplier (Kanter or Mirratt) or can I go to Autozone or the like?

I just bought a infared thermometer on sale at Sears.

Posted on: 2008/7/22 20:29
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23 Series - Overheating 288 engine
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Paul E. Gallagher
paulg3@sbcglobal.net

I am having a trouble similar to what Owen wrote about in July 07 Forum. The car generally runs normal, but spikes to high after about 10 minutes idling. It will then cool back down at normal driving. I just had the radiator re-cored with a new 4 core. ($575 for core , $75 labor to re-install, antifreeze, test, ect. 684.50 total "ouch").
The new radiator seems to have remedied a boiling over problem and hard restart when the engine is hot.

The radiator man said the thermostat was either removed (before I got the car) or is stuck open. Will a new themostat help?

A friend thinks that the brass tube is clogged, and that the temp gauge is spiking because the coolant is not reaching the rear of the block where the coolant gauge pick up is. How do you test that the tube is blocked?

( I may invest in a digital themometer on sale at Sears this week for $59)

Did Owen find any other answers last year?

Posted on: 2008/7/22 15:06
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Re: Packard MPG
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Paul E. Gallagher
I have a framed ad that came with my 49 deluxe eight (23rd series), called "HOW WOULD YOUR CAR RATE ON THIS PACKARD CHART?." They surveyed 1000 Golden Ann. Packard owners with 135 horsepower with overdrive. This was the result:

22 mpg and over 7%
21 9%
20 17%
19 24%
18 22%
17 12%
16 6%
15 and under 3%

They noted that the most frequent response was 19 mpg and 33% got more then 19 mpg. Interesting stuff! Take it for what its worth.

Posted on: 2008/7/5 21:03
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Re: Recognize this? Parts questions on a 23rd series.
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Paul E. Gallagher
If you look at the owner's registry, you'll see I have the same model in the same color. I thought the color was called "Grenedier Maroon" or something like that. Well anyway, I am real new to this too,(bought my car in July , 07) so i'm learning from all your replies and questions.

Posted on: 2007/12/14 22:06
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trip odometer
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Paul E. Gallagher
A big thanks to BIG KEV for posting the '48 owner's manual. I have a '49 - 23 series, and I could not figure out how to reset the trip odometer, thought it was broke or froze up after almost 60 years. After reading the manual online, I got it to work today! With the car not running, I pushed it up and turned clockwise and it began to increase the setting. I tried it again with the car slowly moving, and it quickly reset to zero with no trouble. Thanks again to BIG KEV and all you guys (or Packard experts of either gender)for all the help.

Posted on: 2007/11/7 20:56
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