Im Sorry, If i said something inappropriate, there is just this thing: There are these moments on russian/soviet cars when somethings so messed up you dry to fix it and it gets worse and then when things go even more bad that you would rather give up. In this moment one thing might start to make sens and the problem can be solved and then another and another one.
Until the problem completely solves itself.
So its new do the readers do decide what to think of it!

Looking at this picture that Guscha provided, I have to say there is no logic ore sense in the hole system.
Also when I have repaired Soviet cars,no westerns cars logic seems to adapt, lets say expect the unexpected. If something fells apart then check other near by things to!
If you have something replaced with new parts, it still might not work properly.

PS! There was also a story in National Geographic about the Estonian S.S.R but cant remember wich number it was ore year (must have been late 70s ore 80s issue).

by Guscha: This car should be, the so called "KGB" model GAZ2434 and has a GAZ-13? or ZIL130 like engine (I don't know for sure), but also has the transmission set of a GAZ-13! The GAZ2424 has the engine of the GAZ-13 for sure.'

to HH56: I agree with you 100%

You are right Guscha,I also like more the original GAZ-13.
Actually there was a period of time here 1991-2000 when some people started to rebuilt Soviet cars like Volga and Pobeda so they would look americanized like because they could not get any american cars,
But you have to understand that the transportation of american cars to estonia was restricted at that time, and was not affordable to anyone.

to Guscha: your friend has a good nose for this things!
God, he must be really lucky being new a owner of these two Tshaikas!
But one more thing, you had in one of your earlier posts a GAZ-13 with the number GAZ 13. New thats a estonian license plate and the car looks outside like a GAZ 13, but from the inside it has the technic of a 1959? cadillac, the interior is totally, but very nicely rebuilded (not original).

to Eric (Turbopackman):
Well getting a ZIM,ZIS,ZIL here Is not so easy as you might think.
The last time a saw a ZIM GAZ-12 for sale was a half a year ago and they asked 12000$ for it(pictures below)! Needed restoration, some parts missing ore replaced by some other car parts.
I think Russia is the place where these "Big cars" can be still found. Here these cars have already landed in someones collection and those not worth saving have been recycled as scrap.

Pictures sours www.auto24.ee

PS! A correction the car is still for sale I discovered
http://www.kuldnebors.ee/kuulutused/S%C3%B5idukid/S%C3%B5iduautod/*+Muud+margid/GAZ+12+ZIM/kuulutused.mec?pob_post_id=7310498&pob_action=show_post&pob_cat_id=11045&pob_browser_offset=0&pob_view_language_id=et


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to Eric (Turbopackman):
The law that restricted the size of a personal car has been outdated since 1991 when the Estonian S.S.R(Soviet Socialistic republic) ended.
I think there are millions of people in the world that like old cars. A lot of people like american cars here, I think there are a lot of reasons for that.
I would like to drive one day a 1954 Packard on the Estonian roads.

I found this ZIS really accidently from the Internet, I have to say it was pure luck. I also was amazed,because this thing had been there so long. It had not been recycled as scrap (this happen here to most of the old cars).

This courtyard is not the worst that I have seen, i have seen a lot worse things then this. courtyard like these are today exceptional, and usually rear.

Iamb happy that the car went to restoration and was luckily found by people how know the historical value of it.

I also would be interested to know how the common citizen, got a hold of it. In the former Estonian S.S.R ZIM GAZ-12 was the largest car that could legally be owned by a common citizen. Even if you somehow accidentally got a GAZ-13 a common citizen could not register it on its name, It would have been confiscated immediately.

to: John F. Shireman

Wow, a flathead V12 amazing! But when was the car made (year I mean)?

The Tatra aircooled V8 looks awesome, i didn't know such thing existed.
I have been told,that they exported automatic transmission oils from other stats (maybe U.S) because they were not able to produce it in a high quality standard!
The problems, why automatic transmission did not got to a wide
usage in the Soviet union is a different story.