Thanks again Howard, you must be 2 pages ahead of me in reading
I just found the internal contacts of the solenoid. One side of the Hold in solenoid is grounded and the other terminal is a post externally mounted.

Everything I am reading indicates the Pull In solenoid has the external terminal and then the other side of the coil goes thru some more internal points to an external governor on the speedo cable that kicks in at 22MPH. I don't have any external terminals, switches or solenoids other than the large one we are talking about here

I do want to mention, OD ki8cks in fine, just wouldn't kick out. Found teh OD switch was bad, which I repaired and the OD relay on the firewall was not working. Opened it up and it was rust encapsulated but was able to rebuild and get it to work too.
OD solenoid now clicks again when the OD kick out is depressed, can't take it for a drive, up on blocks waiting for the artillery wheels to come back from the powder coater and then put new Firestone 4" wide whitewalls on her, another week or two.

Awesome! You must be right, wrong manual, thanks!

Thanks again Howard, you must be 2 pages ahead of me in reading
I just found the internal contacts of the solenoid. One side of the Hold in solenoid is grounded and the other terminal is a post externally mounted.

Everything I am reading indicates the Pull In solenoid has the external terminal and then the other side of the coil goes thru some more internal points to an external governor on the speedo cable that kicks in at 22MPH. I don't have any external terminals, switches or solenoids other than the large one we are talking about here

I do want to mention, OD kicks in fine, just wouldn't kick out. Found teh OD switch was bad, which I repaired and the OD relay on the firewall was not working. Opened it up and it was rust encapsulated but was able to rebuild and get it to work too.
OD solenoid now clicks again when the OD kick out is depressed, can't take it for a drive, up on blocks waiting for the artillery wheels to come back from the powder coater and then put new Firestone 4" wide whitewalls on her, another week or two.

Was hoping I wouldn't have to crawl under there from someone with experience of this OD and the sound they hear with engine off and energizing the solenoid.

IF "Hold-In" coil is the coil that the kickdown switch disables, how does the "Pull-In" coil get energized?

I don't see a governor switch anywhere

Thanks Howard, that is also in the Packard Shop Manual on page 25.

Numerous schematics, depending on type o of OD and model are in the OD service manual

I can't ID which is the "SW" and which is the "IGN" terminal while on teh OD. Was hoping I did not have to pull it off. Can't really see it from under the car

I concur, mine has a flat bottom and two terminals. The third "terminal" is the chassis/OD

Which manual are you looking at?

On the OD solenoid mounted on the left side of the OD, there are two terminals, one with a heavier wire and one lighter.

Per the Packard Training Program manual for the OD, there are two windings, the lighter one is the "Hold-In" coil and the heavier winding is the "Pull-In" coil.

This to me indicates that the "Hold-In" coil is the coil that the kickdown switch disables?
If that is correct, how does the "Pull-In" coil get energized?
I don't see a governor switch anywhere

Thanks
John

The solenoid is not faint, quite loud, do wondering if I have the holding solenoid and engage solenoids reversed. Just don’t recall it being that loud before. Thanks for the response.
I suppose it could just be after rebuilding the entire front end and engine, may just have the adjustment to close. I don’t like the way the throttle kick down pawl hits the switch, at quite an angle, not flat, and don’t see how to change that angle

Quick question, lots of work on preservation and something new? IF I push the gas pedal all the way down while setting the choke, I now hear the OD solenoid click. Don’t recall this in past and wondering if I have the two coil windings reversed. Suggestions or is this correct?

thank you Larry, much appreciated