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Re: 49 tank sending unit
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Wow! Now I know why I have trouble with my fuel gage on my 1950 Packard. Here is a wonderful example of a solution looking for a problem. Does anyone know why Packard needed to reinvent the fuel gage and sender?

On my 1950 Packard the fuel gage decided to stop working so I did the sure-fire solution. I sent my sending unit away to one of the usual Packard parts sources and got it back totally rebuilt. I hired a local electrical repair shop that has a great reputation to install the sending unit. They dropped the tank, had it cleaned and leak tested and put in the new sending unit. During this they found a bad wire and fixed that too.

Everything worked well as expected for about a year. On a short trip to a local show the Packard died. The gage was reading 3/4 full so I did not suspect running out of gas. I had it towed home. At home I found the car would run fine if I put gas in it. I took it to a station and filled it up, but the gage read the same. I started using the odometer to refuel the car and closely watched the gage. One day the gage decided to read full, right after I did fill the tank. Next time I drove it the gage went back to 3/4 full reading, but this was obviously wrong because the tank was full.

Now that I can see the details of how the sending unit works I see the solution is not simple. Does anyone have a good suggestion? I will not worry what the cost is because I already have many hundreds of dollars in this 'fix'. I just want the car reliable. If I replace the sender again does anyone have advice on the best place to get another one?

Posted on: 2017/5/26 11:42
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Series 23 Deluxe steering wheel
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Does anyone know what the optional Deluxe steering wheel looks like that was offered as an option in a Series 23 sedan? The steering wheel in my 1950 Deluxe 8 touring sedan is a bit shabby and cracked and I want a restored one. My Packard is restored and the steering wheel is the worst part of the interior now. I saw a really pretty steering wheel on a Packard at the AACA show last weekend but the owner did not know what was the optional "Deluxe" steering wheel. The one at the show was ivory color, matching the ivory knobs in the interior.

Posted on: 2017/4/2 10:04
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Re: Dashboard wiring
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I rewired my Series 23 sedan a few years ago. It was a monster job for an old guy and I would not like to do it again.
The latest tool that would be a big help is the small LED lights. I just bought a couple of them at Harbor freight and they work great under the dash. I wish they were available when I did my rewiring.

The things I really like are:
1. Bright light (there are a number of choices)
2. Small size
3. Does not get hot enough to burn you
4. A small magnet built in to help hold it in position
5. A small spot light on the tip if needed to light up a deep dark place (like the ignition switch wiring or the hidden screws attaching the dash).

If I was doing this job now I would give the lighting my highest priority. I would buy several different types. They are quite low cost.

Posted on: 2017/2/19 12:56
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Re: Map light bulb replacement
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These issues were the same ones I got on my Series 23 with original wiring. After developing wire to wire shorts in the big bundle thru the firewall I decided to replace all the wires. I got an excellent harness from Rhode Island Wiring. I did the rewiring myself. The installation is a major job which takes months..

A couple things I did while the wiring was in work:
1. I added a 50 amp kill switch that cuts off all the power except the battery cables.
2. I could not rewire the turn signal wiring in the steering column, but it works OK.
3. I did not rewire the overhead wires inside the car because it would require removing the brand new headliner.
4. I did not rewire the fuel tank sending unit and later I had to. This means dropping the tank.
5. I added fog lights, cooling fan, backup lights, and some other electrical accessories and used original type wires that I got the from Restoration Supply Co.
6. I bought a 'genernator' to finally fix the lack of current from the original generator. My added accessories caused this problem.
7. I restored the heater while it was out of the car.
8. A big help during installation was removing the old wiring complete and labeling all the terminals.
9. Before starting take lots and lots of photos that show how the original wires were routed.

Rewiring the Packard was a huge job. It would be multiple thousands of dollars if you paid a shop to do it. Patching up old wiring is possible but be ready for trouble inside the big bundle of wires. The wires are nice, but the insulation gets brittle and crumbles.

Posted on: 2017/2/16 14:03
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Re: Fuel gage problem. on Series 23
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Thanks very much for the photos of the tank sender access plate. I want to do that on my Packard to avoid the big job of dropping the heavy tank.

Posted on: 2016/12/31 14:14
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Re: Fuel gage problem. on Series 23
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Thanks Howard for all the information. I was afraid of that huge job to pull the sending unit. I guess I will take it back to the electrical shop that put in my sending unit a couple years ago. Maybe they can mark the floor to get a location for the hole you suggested I cut in the trunk floor.

Posted on: 2016/12/28 0:28
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Fuel gage problem. on Series 23
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I had the fuel gage working fine on my Series 23 until I ran out of gas on the road. The fuel gage is not operating any more and is stuck on 3/4 full.

I previously had a new sending unit installed in my tank and it worked fine for over a year. I had a local shop check the gage when the instrument panel was out. When they worked on the tank they found bad wiring and fixed the wire insulation at the tank. I replaced the entire wire loom also.

I have a spare gage available but have not tried to check it yet.

Does anyone have experience with this fix? I want to get any suggestions on how to test the system. At age 77 I now find it very difficult to crawl under the dash, so I only want to do this once if possible.

Posted on: 2016/12/26 11:48
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Re: 1950 standard 8 4dr.
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Dave; Nice acquisition.

I met Ken at a local show where we both drove our Series 23 Packard 8 sedans. He bought some needed parts from me for Maybelle. Ken is a skilled fabricator and has done a great job fixing Maybelle. She is a great car. With the overdrive she will perform well on the freeways.

I am glad Maybelle got a good home and hope to see photos of more improvements. By the way I have a stash of Series 23 parts remaining in my storage shed after my multi-year restoration of my 'Marilyn.' She is just like Maybelle except for an Ultramatic transmission and the 'Deluxe' trim.

Posted on: 2016/12/26 11:37
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Re: Motor/transmission removal and reinstall, 48 coupe
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I have done much of what you are describing on my Series 23 sedan. One thing I forgot to do is check the water distribution tube inside the block. Apparently you remove the water pump and pull it out from the front. Also with the core plugs removed the rust and scale inside the block should be scraped, dug out, and removed. These things insure the engine will cool properly, along with a clean radiator and a new water pump.

Also check the cam to make sure it is straight and not worn down. A cam grinding business can help with this.

Surfacing the clutch and flywheel is easy at this time and very hard to do later. A new clutch disk and throw out bearing are in the same category.

I like Then and Now to rebuild fuel pumps. They are very fast and not expensive. Make sure your engine has the heat shield on it to fight vapor lock.

Posted on: 2016/12/25 13:34
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Dual master cylinder for Series 23
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Does anyone make a dual master cylinder for a Series 23 (and similar models)? I am getting scared that a minor brake fluid leak causes a total loss of braking! The original master cylinder has mounting bolts through the cylinder.

Posted on: 2016/12/10 13:58
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