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Re: 1941 180 coolant leak
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Thanks for confirming what I had considered doing. Often the helping hand is what is needed to instill confidence.

As an update, I was at the car yesterday with a more mechanically inclined buddy who is working on a Model A and a Studebaker Dicatator, and he asked me for a long handled screwdriver and had me start the car. He then proceeded to do a test I had long known about and long since forgotten (if you don't lose it you lose it), of putting the blade of the screwdriver to the water pump and the handle to the ear. The bearings in the pump are definitely chattering up a storm. That thing definitely has to go. Also, as luck would have it, not a drop leaked from the car during the 10 minutes it ran.

I took step one last night and ordered up a quart of Packard Green engine enamel from Bill Hirsch. Next will be ordering the pump, thermostat, and upper and lower hoses. One paycheck at a time.

Posted on: 8/12 9:47
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Re: 1941 180 coolant leak
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Thanks for the insight, Chris. I'm glad you mentioned the fact that if I use the pressure pump that I not go too high with pressure. The Salesman Data Book shows that 1941 has a sealed cooling system to raise the boiling point. It shows the pressure of the 180 engine to be 7 lbs. Also I will definitely have something to stand on because like you said, it's a pain working over the big fenders.

It has been about 40 or more years since I "helped" my father work on the '37 six and from what I thought I remembered, the water pump seemed like a fairly easy swap out. I'm sure my memory could be off. When you mention it being involved, what were you referring to? The shop manual and the Motor's Manual are pretty vague on the replacement simply saying the radiator does not have to be removed to change the water pump. It seems to rely on the serviceman having a prior knowledge of having replaced a pump. The car is stored 10 miles away so I don't always get all the pertinent info on one trip. Hopefully I am correct in thinking that the pump sits at the top front of the block. The Parts book as well as the service manuals show cut aways of the engine which are not a lot of help in this case. My thought was to drain the coolant, remove the fan belt and any attached hoses, unbolt the pump, clean the surface, replace gasket and pump, reconnect any attached hoses, refill coolant. The steps I left out are lots of swearing in between. The coolant tube won't be coming out because as long as it's not a leak in the radiatior I do not plan to remove it.

Please feel free to point out where I am going wrong or what I should be considering. I won't be tackling anything for at least a couple of weeks as I gather parts and input and fore warned is fore armed. I am not too proud to take any help or foresight on this that I can get.

Posted on: 8/11 4:17
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Re: 1941 180 coolant leak
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Anyone have any experience or feedback on ultraviolet leak detection kits? I was about to pull the trigger on ordering a hand pressure pump when this option came up. Thoughts?

Posted on: 8/10 7:16
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Re: 1941 180 coolant leak
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Thanks guys.

I will look into getting one of those manual radiator pressurizers. I tend to think that it is not overfill, because this is the first time there was any leakage on the floor. I had not added any coolant to the radiator prior to this incident. Also, the end of the overflow tube remains dry.

Assuming that it is the water pump, should I look at replacing anything else besides the pump and gasket?

Posted on: 8/9 8:04
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1941 180 coolant leak
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I was in the garage occupied by my 41 180 Sedan doing nothing related to the car when I noticed a small pool of coolant sitting under the front. The car was not running, nor did I start it, but a quick look underneath didn’t show much more than that small pool. I opened the radiator and since the position is awkward if you aren’t standing on something, I just stuck my finger in. Dry as far as I could get my finger in. I’m going to guess it had been leaking at least the last time I had driven it but I hadn’t noticed. I came back to it a few day later and added distilled water. It took about 3/4 of a gallon to fill it to the neck. I started the car and got down to look under the front. At first very little dripping then more and in a pretty consistent, but not huge, flow. It looks like it is not coming out of the overflow tube but I can see liquid on the brace under the radiator. My guess is either the water pump or the radiator core. The Motor’s Auto Repair Manual would make it seem as if removing either or both the pump or radiator is fairly simple. In my world it never is, so I am looking for some thoughts on whether 1- I may be correct on thinking it is probably one or the other of the radiator or pump 2- how big of a hassle is this job for someone who is not the best mechanic on the block and is always worried about causing more damage. Maybe I should just have it taken to a shop and have someone else deal with it while I pay through the nose. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Posted on: 8/8 18:54
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Florida Packard Club Fall Tour and Meet
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Florida Packard Club Fall meet in Sarasota, Florida. Permission has been given to pass along this page from The Caribbean Courier.

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Posted on: 8/3 3:56
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Re: Website
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Thanks for your hard work. It allows lurkers like me to be able to satisfy my daily Packard fix and helps keep my cars running.

Posted on: 7/2 9:17
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Quiet please
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I got my first "Is that thing running?" the other day while the '41 Sedan was idling in the driveway.

Posted on: 6/9 5:17
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Re: 1937 115C Suspension tear down
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I just tried to download it and yes, I am getting .php file. I just get lines of gobbledy gook when I try to open it.

Posted on: 5/25 6:26
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Re: purchase on line
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No experience with that site, but it looks like classified listings, heavy on dealers. Much akin to Hemmings.com by the looks of it.

Posted on: 4/25 6:09
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