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So this past week I ripped off the band aid and took this thing to work. It handed the roads and traffic well. Had it all out and about. Put about 270 miles on it so far and its running well. Got most of the interior together finally and looks really nice! didnt get a picture of the interior yet.
So one thing I did notice while driving. When doing hard pulls in 2 or third gear around 40-60 mph the car starts to nudge a little bit. if you keep your foot in it, it starts to buck. I dont hear a misfire or anything. I have not done this when the over drive was engaged (at least I dont think so), but did it with the dash knob pushed in and pulled out. Does this sound like an ignition problem? or a clutch or fuel problem? I know the over drive kicks off the ignition for it to go into overdrive, but I dont believe the electronics of the overdrive are turned off when shut off knob is pulled out. so maybe it is the overdrive that is causing this? Attach file: IMG_2170.jpg (350.09 KB) IMG_2173.jpg (115.21 KB) IMG_2189.jpg (142.70 KB) IMG_2171.jpg (482.60 KB)
Posted on: 2023/10/27 16:04
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Re: Resurrecting my 56’ Patrician
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When it comes to interior fabric it really depends on how much money you want to blow compared to how original you want it too look. SMS will match your factory fabric perfectly, but as it was stated, it takes years for them to deliver. It took two years to get the seat covers to my door from when I initially ordered them back in 2021 and they are not cheap. If your okay with it not using the stock fabrics you can take it to really any good upholsterer and have them match the pattern in what ever fabric or color you want.
Tuning a car with a vacuum gauge is a good way to go, but I have struggled with using that method in the past. I try to tune the carb with a tach and use the vacuum gauge as a back up. With your timing set (I believe Ross states 10 BTDC is what is best) you can set your idle fuel mixture by adjusting the screws at the base of the front of the carb. You are correct in adjusting them in small measurements at a time. What your looking for is screwing them out until you see the idle speed stop increasing, then back them "in" just before it starts to go back down again. in order to do this you may have to make smaller turns like an 1/8 or so. Given the amount and size of the passages in a carb, I feel the best way to clean it is with an ultrasonic cleaner. People have plenty of opinions on what to use in an ultrasonic cleaner but I have found the purple Simple Green stuff mixed at a 1:1 does a pretty good job and doesnt discolor the aluminum/pot metal. Rebuilding a carb isnt too bad, but a lot of damage can be done depending on how much varnish has been left in there over the years. I have had carbs from the 60s/70s be complete junk because the jets were essentially welded in. There are instructions online on how to rebuild these Rochesters, but if you are too concerned, there are people who rebuild them and have been mentioned above. I use rebuild kits from Mikes Carbs.
Posted on: 2023/10/20 8:46
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so just speed nuts then? I have access to the backsides of all the panels that it shouldnt be a problem
Posted on: 2023/10/13 11:23
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Looking through my check list. What is needed to secure the Packard script along the side and rear of the vehicle? Are they trim nuts? Or some type of push nut?
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Posted on: 2023/10/12 17:43
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Thank you, it is a replacement. I had it recovered by a company in California. It took a couple months for them to complete the work. Now if you decide to go that route, it is a PAIN to do. The dash board has to come out and then be separated (some say they could separate the dash with it in place, but I dont have the patience for that). To remove the dash board you either need to disconnect all the wires that are attached to it, or disconnect all the wires in the engine bay and pull the harness through the firewall. Either is not fun.
Posted on: 2023/10/12 11:59
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thank you for that. I will go through all the connections and make sure they are tight. I did take the car out again last night for a 50 mile run. Basically the route I would take to work to see how the car would handle it in non rush hour traffic. it did do well! During this run I was on a straight away long enough in a tunnel to watch the tach, and it does appear that the car does go into over drive! I probably need to drive it more in day light to visually see the rpms but I was able to hit about 70 mph while the engine was turning 2,000 rpm. The trans did start to make a groawning noise at some points but as I increased speed it went away. I have a sneaking suspicion that it happens when I am in over drive and the engine rpms are too low. Ill just have to drive it more and find out.
Posted on: 2023/10/12 8:45
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So last night after work I was able to get the relay in. I am still not getting power at the yellow wire, anytime I put the test light on it, now the solenoid clicks when I do so. Which I guess is the same as grounding the wire at the governor which according to the FSM says the solenoid should click.
I also did some adjustment to the clutch and shifter and tried to rotate the passenger mirror a little bit more so I could actually see out of it. Still not working to well. I may just cut some of the plastic bushing so I can rotate the mirror head more. I wanted to get all of this done so I could take the car to downtown Pittsburgh to pick up the wife from the train station. The pick up went well, but I tried the O/D and I'm still not convinced it is working. The electrical stuff worked before I left and it appears that there is no change in engine rpm when the cable is pushed in or pulled out. I converted the clock into a tachometer and it appears at 50 mph I am still turning 2,000 rpms. Now, sometimes last night if I was coasting in gear and I rolled onto the gas I could hear the engine increase in rpm and not actually accelerate. It eventually would "grab" and start to accelerate. I did not have this issue happen when the cable was pulled out. I kind of figured there would be a big "ca-thunk" when it would go into over drive once you took your foot off the gas above 40 mph, am I mistaken? Over drive is .722 to 1 so I figured I would see some difference in RPM's, unless my tach is not that accurate. I think I heard some "clicking" happening when I would get below 30 mph like it was telling it to come out of over drive, but again, I didnt notice difference. Is it really that smooth? or do I have a solenoid or mechanical issue? or is the torque curve of this engine that great that it just doesnt care about the gear difference?
Posted on: 2023/10/11 16:12
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thank you for that. I got the relay converted to a new one. Im calling it a night (11:30 pm on a work night), ill test everything again tomorrow
Posted on: 2023/10/9 22:33
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yes that is how the ballast is connected. The connections at the plug and the wire connector are good. the relay was damaged before and I put in screws where the rivets have failed. I did put in the spacers that the rivets held in place. so there really is no way to repair this? or am I correct in my assessment that it is damaged and needs replaced?
Posted on: 2023/10/9 21:30
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