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Re: Authenticity vs. Modification
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PackardV8
Owen raises a good point about the Historic Registration of a vehicle. I'd like to hear how other states handle it too.

I've often wondered if some people are just trying to beat the high price of registration that exists in SOME states. Alabama or mississpippi is extremely high priced for regular registration.

I run regular registration on all of my 4our wheeled vehicles in Tennessee, including the Packard, $85 each. Only the motorcycles get historic tags.

As a side note. Up until 6ix years ago my 56 Cushman was not only the FIRST historic MC registration here in Keg county but the only one. Not sure what MC's have been registerd as historic over the last 5 or 6 years.

TN registration is by county not state wide.

Posted on: 2009/4/11 17:32
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Re: Authenticity vs. Modification
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PackardV8
Irish. What are the 2wo linear things extending from the hood ornament to each upper corner of the windshield?????

Posted on: 2009/4/11 17:15
VAPOR LOCK demystified: See paragraph SEVEN of PMCC documentaion as listed in post #11 of the following thread:f
http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7245
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Re: 1934 Pittsburgh Auto Show?
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Tim Cole
Here is my take on this rig.

Given that Ed Blend lived around Pittsburgh if there was any information more than a single picture he would have found it. My guess is that the car was an individual custom done locally. That is, the Lebaron fenders and running boards were ordered via the parts book and the conversion made by a local shop. The car may have been loaned by the dealer for the display or put there as part of the dealer's own display. If this car was a Packard factory job it would have been shown in more than one place, and there would have been a studio picture.

I saw another oddball like this years ago. It was an individual custom 180 Club Sedan chopped to look like a Cadillac 60 Special. It even had 60 Special doors on it. That car was a Rollson job.

Posted on: 2009/4/11 17:10
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Re: 1934 Pittsburgh Auto Show?
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Ozstatman
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Sarcux wrote: Hiya everyone...I'm wondering if any of you happen to have stowed away some photos from the 1934 auto show in Pittsburg's Motor Square Garden.........

Jeremy.

A couple of thoughts on sourcing pic's of the 1934 auto show in Pittsburg's Motor Square Garden. These being the archives of the Pittsburgh newspapers of the time, and likewise the records and documents of Pittsburg's libraries and museums. Don't know if these are now on-line or if it means sitting down and sifting through old paper records but they are probably the most likely and accessible sources of what you're after.

Posted on: 2009/4/11 17:01
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

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Re: ZIS 110
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HH56
2 hose system would be pressure applied on either side of the piston to force raise or lower. That would require the reversible pump like 55-6 convertibles or the reversing valve as in 48-54 convertibles. The windows always had just a single hose at bottom of piston. They were very inexpensive cylinders but adequate for the purpose--until they leak.

Posted on: 2009/4/11 16:56
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Re: Most reliable Packard engine?
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Ozstatman
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Turbopackman wrote:........How about just deleting Petey?

Kev,

Now that Petey's deleted, how about deleting one of his Owner Registry '38 V12 entries too? Some may want both entries deleted but I'd like to retain one for "posterity" irrespective of the feelings generated.

And all,
Another thing, just re-read the original post in this thread and it contains a second question which seems to have been missed in all the confusion.

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Larenc wrote:....and what is the most economical?

Here are my experiences:

'38 Eight - 14 miles per Imperial gallon = 11.5 miles per US gallon.
'41 120 - 13 miles per Imperial gallon = 10.75 miles per US gallon. Once O/D is working looking to see these figures improve.

Posted on: 2009/4/11 16:48
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

What's this?
Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry!
Here's how!
Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com
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Re: Authenticity vs. Modification
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Randy Berger
I like Dave Kenney's take on this thread which I believe, was the way it was written. It wasn't meant to denigrate anyone, nor to chase anyone away. We need all the Packard folks we can get. I think Owen was pointing out that many rush in to solve a problem that doesn't really exist. I believe that Owen was telling someone to take your time and study the problem. Perhaps a minor fix would prevent someone diving in to convert to 12 volt or spend a lot of money to install a Chrysler tranny when the Ultra can be rebuilt for less money and aggravation. A lot of folks get their ideas from someone with less than ten years experience. That is the beauty of this forum - you have access to well over 50 years of hands-on experience, so don't take it as an insult when tried and true solutions or practices are pointed out. We are all here because we enjoy the uniqueness of the Packard auto. Yes there are the prewar guys who look down at us postwar owners and the straight-8s who slander the V8s, but they are few and far-between anymore and growing thinner in rank all the time.
We have a great thing going here. Let's all enjoy it.

Posted on: 2009/4/11 16:35
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Re: 1934 Pittsburgh Auto Show?
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Jeremy Adams
The car needs to sell before we full-on start its restoration, and when it is done we'll look into the coachbuilding thing. We're slowly working at it now. A bunch of small stuff is finished already (engine ancillaries, gauges, etc.)

It is gorgeous though. My dad thinks it is one of the best examples of an American production car - something important this day and age. We as a society can look back and say "look what we can do".

Posted on: 2009/4/11 15:54
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Re: Authenticity vs. Modification
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JD in KC
Dave,

Here's Missouri:
"To qualify for historic license plates, a vehicle (passenger vehicle, truck, or motorcycle) must be 25 years old or older, owned solely as a collector's item, and used for exhibition and educational purposes.

Vehicles displaying historic or antique license plates may be driven:

1. To and from exhibitions and educational events without any mileage limitation;
2. To repair facilities within a 100 mile limit; and
3. Up to 1,000 miles per year for personal use.

The owner is responsible for keeping a log of the miles driven for personal use each calendar year. The log must be kept in the vehicle when the vehicle is being driven on any state road.

Historic license plates are a permanent registration and cannot be transferred. If you sell or dispose of the vehicle, you must return the plates to the Missouri Department of Revenue."

One time charge of $28.75. No Inspection required.

Both my Packards have historic plates. Works for me.

Posted on: 2009/4/11 15:52
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Re: Authenticity vs. Modification
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Owen_Dyneto
Kev, as always I enjoyed your answer, I understand your desires and circumstances and think you're doing a commendable job. I'd be glad to be seen in your Packard any day!

One thing that hasn't been discussed much here within the context of "daily driver" is that of motor vehicle registration, historic plates, and insurance. Car insurance here in NJ is the highest in the nation I believe. Many of us want to avail ourselves of "historic registration" which totally exempts us from state MV inspection, has a one-time registration fee with no renewal costs, and facilitates less expensive insurance, but also puts limitations on the use of the car. In NJ the historic registration and tags are (to paraphrase a bit) for "exhibition and education purposes only". This even excludes maintenance, and certainly prohibits daily driving. Not that you're likely to be caught by the cops who could care less, but God forbid you have an accident with personal injury, a sharp lawyer could make you a pauper for life for illegal and (they'd claim) negligent misuse of driving privilege. It's just not work the risk for some of us. Yeah, I push it once in a while for a spin around town or short joy ride, but not too often.

I'd be interested in how other states limit the use on historic registration.

Posted on: 2009/4/11 15:29
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