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Re: Design Concept '30 734 Speedster pictures
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Thanks Roger, glad you like them.

I've had a few inquires about buying color prints of these, anyone else interested?

If there is and I can find a printer that does quality work on low quantity print runs and make them available at reasonable enough cost, I'll do so.

Steve

Posted on: 2009/7/21 12:31
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Re: Branson Pics
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Thanks again everyone, I have to check this first daily, next best thing to being there!

For HH56: Thanks for the Irfanview tip, works great!

Steve

Posted on: 2009/7/1 10:59
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Design Concept '30 734 Speedster pictures
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Hi Kev

Here are better images of my watercolor rendering of my '30 734 Speedster convertible and sport sedan design concepts than those found on my EGP webpage.

A folder for Packard Art for those of us who frequently use Packards as art subjects would be appreciated.

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Steve Kelley

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Posted on: 2009/7/1 10:39
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Re: Branson Pics
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My thanks as well for all the pictures, as much as I'd like to be there but couldn't, these are a pleasure to see.

Every time I look at a group of Packard photos, I can't help but reflect on how much the nation lost when it lost Packard.

Next year's meet is at Gettysburg,PA, only 250 miles......I'm going!!!

Steve

Posted on: 2009/6/30 19:39
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Re: Is an Essex worth $500,000? Ebay Craziness
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Only if it's made out of pure gold! Maybe not even then.

I love Ebay just exactly for sellers such as this one: entertaining, idiotic but entertaining!

Steve

Posted on: 2009/6/19 11:21
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Re: starter for 58 packard
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You can have that starter rebuilt at Strobel's Auto Electric in Pavilion,N.Y. They're at the junction of Route 19 and 20, their phone number is (585) 584-3187

All the chassis and body parts for the '58 Packard are essentially the same a Studebaker. '58 was the first year with the one piece driveshaft. Your car is the 120.5" wheelbase Y-body sedan, shared with the President. You might check to see if the driveshaft interchanges with '58 and later Hawks, also built on the same chassis frame.

A good source of information and help is the Studebaker Drivers Club:

http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/

The technical forum on-line can get good advice and help.

Steve, nearby, down in Dalton, NY

Posted on: 2009/6/16 18:10
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Re: Kirchhoff Packard
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Hi West

Thanks for posting these photo, seems if I've seen this before in one of Hugo Pfau's Cars & Parts articles in the '70's. I looked through my issues but haven't found it.

Of Kirchhoff designs: reference Fred Roe's Duesenberg text, page 195 for a photo of Duesenberg 2208, J186. To my eyes, it looks like a Murphy design but stiff and lacking finesse. Compare with the early Murphy convertible sedan shown just above on the page of car 2146 J123, much nicer!

If this Packard hadn't been identified as Kirchhoff, I might have guessed Rollston by the fine mouldings and dropped C-pillar top well. I don't recall many Rollston convertible sedan, just the convertible victorias, this design looks similar to the quarter-window type on page 211 Duesenberg 2293 J272.

Of the Kirchhoff Duesenberg town car: its proof just because one has resources to have an elegant custom design doesn't preclude one from have a prosaic design built.
That body, other than the crude removable front canopy could be any old business sedan or livery car. But at least it's not as awful as Father Divine's Duesenberg Bus by Bohman and Schwartz!

Steve

Posted on: 2009/6/15 8:13
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Re: Motor Trend & Hot Rod
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MT & HR: I lost interest in MT by the late '70's. MT along with and especially Road & Track, Car & Driver, Automobile irritated me with their relentless praise of whatever the next pricey model foreign makers bestowed on the fortune few who could afford one, implying those who couldn't should just....well, try to live out their miserable lives somehow.

I recall a particular subscription mailer for Automobile that headed the pitch "NO BORING CARS!". Their snotty, better-than-thou attitude came across loud and clear to me. Of course, I like lots of old cars they consider "boring".

HR never was of interest to me, I look at them when one comes my way, rarely find much of interests in it.

Currently, I find the most intelligent, interesting reading in the club publication: PAC, CCCA, SDC, ASC. In addition to the finely researched and well-written articles, letters from the club memberships share and enlarge on recent topics.

For a good general interest old car magazine, Hemmings Classic Car is hard to beat for the price. Wide variety, fairly well-written, interesting how-to and restoration features, thoughtful editorials, nice photography. And a gift subscription to a neighbor gets my driveway plowed after any heavy snow we might have!

Of Hemmings Motor News: after 30 plus years of subscribing and eagerly consuming each new issue, they lost me. A few years ago, I began to notice most of the content repeated month after month, it no longer seemed worth the price to reread the same advertisements I wasn't interested in in the first place. Also I became put-off by the idiotic prices for some very lousy cars (one's I remember as a teenager, I'm 57, so most of that HP ruck of 40 years ago)

One last: Old Cars Weekly, when I can get it for their 'special' deal price of $29.95. It gives me a weekly fix to read off-line, share with other guys, but it's no keeper, an old car 'fishwrapper'.

Steve

Posted on: 2009/5/9 8:20
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Re: 1934 Pittsburgh Auto Show?
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To the design of the Lincoln Continental: Edsel Ford, who made many trips to Europe in the Thirties, visiting all the major auto show venues, would have imparted that knowledge and design preference to E. T. Gregorie, who was fully aware of the design trends of sporting European luxury cars.
Those could be characterized by low, long hoods, short rear decks, close-coupled passenger compartment proportions. Details such as full-length hoods, separate boxed trunks with rear-mounted spares, low, rectangular convertible-style window treatments are to be found on myriad coachbuilt cars there such as Bentley, Bugatti, Delage, etc.

Since Edsel had Gregorie design special personal cars for him throughout the period, the design was just the natural result of Edsel's desire to have a personal car of "continental" design. To his credit, he made it available to a group of interested customers

I have to agree with others the time frame given in the post regarding how the Lincoln Continental was designed would preclude this lovely Packard from having direct influence in the 1938-39 time period.

Apropos whether the original factory photo was discarded to prevent management from realizing they had allowed a sterling design to escape only to be used by other. By 1938-39, management was obviously far more interested in volume production rather than the peripheral market the Continental represented. While management seemed to embrace Darrin as one of their own in '40, recall the story of how Darrin got one of his early victoria presented to a Packard dealer meeting. Initially, management was uninterested in offering the Darrins through the dealer network until those same dealers had a look at one, albeit a damaged one. The force of the design sold the car, management came to that idea after the dealers showed great enthusiasm for it.

As I posted earlier in this thread: WHAT A STUNNER!!!!!!

Steve

Posted on: 2009/4/14 11:00
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Re: 1934 Pittsburgh Auto Show?
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I haven't any knowledge of the car's history to add or a source of the '34 Auto Show photo, but I must say:

WHAT A STUNNER!!!!!!!!

It's the prefect combination of designs and features into a penultimate elegant unity. I've never seen it before, thanks for posting it. I'm glad to know it's in good hands now, can't wait to see it restored.

I would be interested in reading more about your possible move into custom coachbuilding.

Steve

Posted on: 2009/4/11 7:23
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