Some of us have been online with Packards for nearly ten years and have seen a lot that colors our opinions so strongly.

One website not only won't let you state a complaint about a vendor, but you can't even recommend a vendor (that is, unless they are a paying advertiser) without getting a nastygram from their control freak webmaster. Thankfully, you'll find none of that crap here at P'Info.

However, while I technically accept the TOS at the AACA Forums, I rarely post there anymore because of the heavy-handed moderation that goes on in that site. Granted some things could get out of hand down in "The Basement" (the former Misc. Chat section) at times, but since that Forum was eliminated by the powers that be, moderation got out of hand in the marque-specific forums.

The low point for the Packard DF came in late 2006. John hinted at one of several episodes that bordered on an abuse of power, but I'll spare you the details. Suffice it to say that the AACA's handling of the situation and management of their Forum software only set the stage for the succesful relaunch of a Forum here at P'Info.

For anyone who took offense at the satirical reference to any dictator, I wonder how you would have felt if you saw how the admins at the AACA site deleted thread after thread that remembered Pearl Harbor Day and WWII in the BCA General Forum last December. Though the posts have all since been deleted, several particpants of that Forum made some much worse comments about the admins, publicly, there.

My point is that if other sites and clubs were so good for the hobby, we wouldn't be here today building this one.

FINALLY i have done some more worthwhile work to the clipbee.

late on friday afternoon my uncle helped me remove the motor, which was no small task in itself. that thing weighs a ton i swear! I just ended up cutting the exhaust pipe, it wasn't reusable anyways. Had to remove the power stearing pump to get a good bolt hole to attach the chain too. Also had to unbolt the trans cooler, which by the pics you can see is wasted....rusted up good at the inlet and the outlet holes, othewise i couldn't get to the front engine mount bolt. for this car being so big, that engine seems to be cramed in there at times....especially the exhaust, what a weird way to do it.

does anyone know if there is an exhaust manifold for the driver's side that faces towards the back of the car instead of the one i have that faces forward for the single exhaust. i would like to do dual, custom exhaust, but i don't want to wrap forwards and under the motor first. the stearing box will be a challenge too.

my pressure washer sprung a leak and wont hold pressure, so i couldn't clean the motor off very well. it is one of those cheap electric ones. i need a good gas one, but i can't afford it right now.

that engine stand is a 1500 lb stand, and you can see it is giving it a fit to hold it up....that is one mosterous motor for a 352 that's for sure. just to get it off the hoist and on the stand, i had to straddle the stand onto the hoist and then build up the back of the stand with blocks of wood.....it was sturdy suprisingly. then i had to position the motor just right to get it on the stand and bold it up. i used 2 1/2 or 3" grad 8 bolts to connect it. once i got it on i put a jack on the front of the stand to lift the weight off the hoist. then i pulled the hoist out and lowered the jack...this was scary.....then i lifted the back off the blocks of wood, moved then and lowered to the floor......i don't recommend this to anyone as it was very scary to do it this way, but i had no other choice unfortunately.

i also got the dash out....enough said.....what PIA!!!! i didn't like Packard that day i can tell you. i got it out with all the wires attached so i could take good pictures of where all the wires go too when i take it apart. i tried to take as many pics of where all the wiring hooks up to the motor too, but my camera phone sux.

i took the stearing wheel off and the shaft out too.....anyone know how to remove the long shaft that runs into the stearing box....it just stays there. or does it come out with the box as one unit?

anyways.....almost done dismantling this thing. next up is removing the body.......do i really need to put in some door braces when i take the body off?????? it seems as though it would have been mated to the frame at the factory without brace.

anyways enjoy the pics.

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BigKev,

Can you provide me a link to your FTP so I can put the scan on my Owners manual out there for you.

BigKev,

So far it is has been a good investment (even thou I have only used it once so far). You will be amazed the difference in how it sprays compared to the lower end guns. One thing it is on the heavy side but for me I won't be doing the car all at once so weight won't be too much of a factor. Like you I don't have a huge compressor so looking at all the other guns that are out there this one also was the best for my air consumption.

What I need to do is get some scrape steel for test spraying and to get it dialed in.

I can almost see the light for color soon :)...Now I just need to decide on the color scheme. I already purchase a gallon of SS black. Do I go Maroon again, Packard Blue or Green, a Mahogany that I saw at the shop that did my metal work????

I support Eric and his posting of the pictures concerning the AACA moderators, ie Steve M and Peter G. I have no time today to tell about how Peter G. made a private phone conversation public in AACA forum.


John F. Shulman

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OldGold,

Thanks for the quick reply, these old eyes didn't catch it was a pickup. Now you know why I need close up pic's of the taillights.

Satirical references are meant to be just that, and hopefully humourous.

Most people have seen the Seinfeld episode featuring the "Soup Nazi" and in that connotation, as in this one, use of a "Nazi" is a means of conveying a meaning and nothing more.

It's often been said that satire is the lowest form of wit. If that's a truism, it should be beneath our dignity to even contemplate giving credence to anything other than it's intended meaning.

That is a actually a pickup. It's a 42 Ford cab, chopped 6" with the windshield laid back 3". The front sheetmetal is from a 39 Ford Standard coupe. I just started on that one.

OldGold,

Another question. What is the chopped Coupe next to your Packard in the rear end pic?

Monday 23rd June 2008

Arrived at the workshop before Wade and cleaned up the aluminium hold down clamps for the battery. But forgot to take a pic and will do so tomorrow if I remember! Then started on removal of the intake and exhaust manifolds, loosened all the stud nuts easily except one snapped. On examination of the snapped stud it's apparent it had already been stretched and was literally hanging by a thread, so I didn't feel too bad about it, and it had been the "victim" of a previous repair of some sort so that was a contributing factor. After loosening the studs I unbolted and removed the carburettor and undid the exhaust clamp nuts and one of these had a nut and bolt instead of a stud and nut.

Because of all that was going on I missed out on the Transmission Locating Rod that Eric had spotted for me on eBay. The auction was ending at 11:30am Sydney time and so before I left for the workshop entered a number of bids until I was the high bidder at US$22.72 and left an automatic bid of US$31.73 in the system. At about 11:05am I thought I'd give the work another 10/15 minutes then jump on Rick's PC. But it was not to be as I realised about 11:29:59 that I wasn't on line. So by the time I got on so all I could do was accept it stoically, as another opportunity missed. Sorry, Eric, you tried. I'll just have to find another one now.

After scraping and cleaning the side of the head where it had been previously screened by the manifolds scaped and cleaned the gasket surfaces. Then took off the tappet covers to be met by a sludge buildup. After a short discussion with Wade then plugged the oil return holes and proceeded to scrape, wipe and finally spray with brake cleaner and wipe off most of the sludge. During the course of this managed, or so I thought, to push one and then another of the paper towel plugs through into the sump. So off comes the sump, and just as well, as it too naturally had a sludge buildup of about 1/4" - 3/8" in it's bottom. That's right sludge, but no wads of paper towel! I must have dislodged the wads into the can under the tappets I was using for the spoiled towels! After cleaning out the vast majority of the sludge manually have left the sump and the oil pickup to soak overnight in kerosene.

While most of the above was going on, Wade was finishing up his '34 engine and at one stage again cranked it over on the starter only and this time raised oil pressure. Not much, about 4lbs, but enough to show the oil is circulating and to lubricate the engine internals. Next step is to fire it up as it's now ready to go. But to do that Wade has promised Gina, his wife, that she will witness the momentous occasion so until Gina next comes to the workshop we'll all be waiting expectantly and excitedly until then.

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