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Re: John's 1935 1201 Coupe for Two or Four Passengers, RHD in Tasmania
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Thanks Desk Driver. Yes it is quite soft and pliable, and a bit crumbly when you pry off the protruding beads of it. I think I need to get more assertive with the sump; perhaps I've been too gentle so far. You've all given me good ideas to progress with it next time; heat, solvent and extra muscle. I'll let you know how it goes, but it won't be for a few days.

In the interim a small parcel has arrived from this site's "Phil From Tassie." My car is missing two end bolts from the beautiful sculpted door hinges. Just a small cosmetic detail but still important. Phil visited several weeks ago, and took one of the remaining ones home. Look what he's returned to me! Two perfect little replicas he whipped up on his own lathe. Thanks, Phil!

Cheers, John

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Posted on: 2016/8/1 23:34
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Re: John's 1935 1201 Coupe for Two or Four Passengers, RHD in Tasmania
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Thank you gentlemen, will do.

In today's mail arrived the Membership Directory and 2015-2016 Handbook of The Packard Club. Of course I flicked through the short list of Australian members and found listed a member just a couple of hundred metres from my home in Launceston! The member lists a 1917 2-25 Seven Passenger Touring Car and a 1939 1700 1282 Touring Sedan. I'll reach out and make contact; maybe next weekend.

J.

Posted on: 2016/8/1 5:53
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Re: John's 1935 1201 Coupe for Two or Four Passengers, RHD in Tasmania
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Thanks Ernie. I tried again this weekend but without success.

I first attempted to remove the right side floor sheet that goes between the engine and the chassis rail. Even this seemingly simple task proved problematic because the steering shaft makes it incredibly difficult to get a hand or spanner on to a couple of the nuts inside the chassis rails. Without them being held the bolt nut assemblies just spin in unison while turning the bolts from underneath. I gave them some penetrant and left them for a later attempt.

Back to the sump (oil pan). I sharpened a selection of sneaky thin scraper blades on the bench grinder, and armed with these and a rubber mallet I went back under. No joy. I couldn't find anywhere that I could sneak a blade more than 1-2mm into the gap. I didn't try a huge amount of brute force with the mallet... maybe I should get more physically persuasive with it next time. In the first picture below you can see the beads of sealant compound used previously. Under the black oil it comes out as an off-white softish stuff. I didn't just use the little razor blade shown; I had a couple of quite stiff and substantial paint scrapers that I was able to thwack with the rubber mallet, but didn't get them any further in than the blade shown.

I left it to reflect about it until next session... thinking more and more about the inevitability of a full removal and rebuild with professional help.

The lack of progress with the sump was a bit disappointing, so I decided to finish the session with some low-hanging fruit; scraping more of the caked mud and grease from the undercarriage. Gathered a very satisfying pile of dirt, but left mulling over what the future holds for the engine.

Thanks all. John

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Posted on: 2016/7/31 19:33
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Re: John's 1935 1201 Coupe for Two or Four Passengers, RHD in Tasmania
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Thank you so much HA52, David M and Phil.

I worked around the car all day on Sunday but was ultimately unable to lay a finger on it. I spent the first half of the day clearing more of the old junk from around it so I can access it better. It culminated in getting bogged with a trailer load of old junk ready to cart away. I've only got highway tyres on the Land Rover and they all just spun in the mud. I'm not convinced the diff-lock was engaging correctly either. Anyway, by the time I'd sorted that out, all Packarding time had evaporated. Frustrating, but I'll have to be patient. Heaps more heavy rain forecast for the next 2 weeks so the area around the shed will remain as boggy as a Byron Bay Blues Festival for a while.

I hope to spend this coming Sunday on the actual car; not just the peripheral shed problems. I'll let you know how it goes prying off the sump.

Phil, that is exciting news! Thank you so much. Please just let me know what I owe you for those. I hope we can get you back down for when we are ready to try firing up the car; but the more I do, the further in the future that seems.

All the best for now,

John

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Posted on: 2016/7/28 4:28
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Hello Troy,

Thanks for sharing this exciting project.

I see you have a number of sheared bolts to deal with here. I've got six similar sheared bolts to remove from my Twelfth series Eight block, from which I recently removed the water jacket. I'd be thankful if you or someone else with experience could please document or photograph your protocol for dealing with these?

I've done a little research on "easy-out' type devices. Is this the way to go? Are there tricks or techniques to maximise the chance of success?

Thanks in advance.

John

Posted on: 2016/7/21 18:24
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Re: John's 1935 1201 Coupe for Two or Four Passengers, RHD in Tasmania
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Thanks Mal and Desk Driver.

With your advice in mind, I'll spend some time on it on Sunday. I think I'll investigate removal of the right-side floor panel first, which looks a little trickier because it hugs the RHD steering assembly and exhaust. I'll have to do this carefully because there are loose and fragile remnants of insulation lagging hanging from the exhaust which I assume are asbestos. I will have to take some time to carefully shroud the asbestos before I proceed.

Then I'll take the time to patiently clean up all around the sump (oil pan) before finally attempting the careful separation you both endorse.

Thanks and cheers, John

PS: A big shout out for AJS who kindly sent me a set of pictures of his identical engine from his Phaeton, to use as a reference. Thanks Andy! Really appreciate the generous spirit within this forum.

Posted on: 2016/7/21 18:10
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Re: John's 1935 1201 Coupe for Two or Four Passengers, RHD in Tasmania
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No joy in my fresh attempts to remove the oil pan. To be honest I struggled to find a crevice big enough to insert any kind of encouraging scraper blade or the like. There appears to be some ancient adhesive between the pan and the crank case which is making the task difficult. As the joint is adjacent to the narrow floor panels (name?) between the engine and the chassis rails it is very difficult to wangle an encourager into the joint, so I decided to take the time to remove the left panel last night. In the third picture you can see that it is out. I spent more time on my back cleaning the ancient caked dirt and oil away, resigned to the fact that this is going to be trickier than first hoped. Mindful of O_D's exhortation to "first, do no harm"; is there any advice on how to proceed if it is glued together?

Thanks as always, John

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Posted on: 2016/7/20 22:39
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Re: John's 1935 1201 Coupe for Two or Four Passengers, RHD in Tasmania
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Thanks Andy. PM sent. Cheers, John

Posted on: 2016/7/18 23:32
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Re: John's 1935 1201 Coupe for Two or Four Passengers, RHD in Tasmania
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Thanks Phil, sounds like a good plan; I'll try that when I get back from New Zealand. I'm over here with the family for a skiing holiday. Glad you're enjoying the blog; I sure couldn't do this car project without the collective guidance of this Packard village!

Hope you don't get too badly hammered by tomorrow's cold front; I believe it is going to be the coldest since 2005.

Talk soon, cheers John

Posted on: 2016/7/8 6:57
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Re: John's 1935 1201 Coupe for Two or Four Passengers, RHD in Tasmania
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A few questions for the experienced hands today, please:

1: picture attached of my jack-stand arrangement; under the spring brackets at the front and the axle at the rear. Are we happy with this? Is there anything I should do to improve stability?

2: today I tried to remove the oil pan. I removed all the lateral nuts and washers, plus the bolts at the front and rear. Pretty sure I got them all but the pan refused to come free. Still firmly attached. Is it likely that I've missed some less obvious fasteners, or is it just held in place by years of old thickened oil and gasket vacuum? What should I look for or contemplate? Should I try to gently pry it off? If so; what is the preferred procedure?

As always, thanks for all advice,

John

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Posted on: 2016/7/3 7:25
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