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Re: Data tag lettering reproduced
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You might try William Clark in Texas. He did a beautiful job on my VIN tag.
clarkwc@aol.com

Posted on: 2023/6/1 20:57
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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Tex, I'd really like to understand that. My mind says, I use so many watts with the headlights on, the generator has to replenish just that many watts, not more, because there are two batteries instead of one.

VOLTAGE REGULATOR: When i ground the Field terminal on the VR, the battery indicator shows it is charging, suggesting that the generator works, but the VR is bad. When the Field is re-connected, it wont charge.

I ordered a new VR from Brillman. I disconnected the battery and hooked it up. Before turning on the ignition, i re-connected the battery and touched the ARM to the BAT terminals. There was only the tiniest spark. When I turned onthe ignition and ran the engine, turned on the lights, there was no charge, just discharge.

I removed the VR and called Brillman. Their tech is out til Monday when I’ll call back, in the meantime they are sending a replacement in case this one is faulty.

I ordered one from NAPA, but it won't be here until Monday.

But something is wrong.

Last Saturday with the old non-functioning VR connected, i drove a friend's 4 family members all over Washington for 3 hours, no problems. But i wasn't using lights, radio or heater. The batteries fully charged (green light) overnight.

Using the manual and the ‘38-‘39 shop manual didnt help me much. The air gaps are way smaller on the VR than the specs in the manual, prob cuz i dont understand it.

After taking the VR off, i touched the wires intended for the VR BAT terminal to ground and had a nice strong spark, so battery is getting to the VR.

I tried to do a continuity test from the ARM wire to the ARM terminal on the generator, but there is continuity to it AND the Field terminal in the generator and the ground on the generator. Tomorrow I will disconnect both ends of the wires. Same with the VR Field wire. I just dont get it. Obviously.

I put the old non-functioning VR back on the car, so i can drive the car. Unlike the Brillman, I get a healthy spark ARM-BAT when I polarized the generator, so possibly the Brillman is bad, but it seems unlikely to me. MADE IN THE USA stamped on everywhere.

I dont want to wreck the new NAPA one.

Do you have any ideas?
Any tests or checks I can do that i might understand and report back? I'll take pix as I go.

I really need the help of someone who thinks logically, so I can proceed step-by-step. That's not my normal MO. Thanks for your help.

Posted on: 2023/6/1 20:20
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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My generator is a GEA 4802A. Shunt wound, 2 brushes.The VRP-4003A (I use a NAPA VR-25 or Brillman B8002-028 as I have a '47 Custom 356 engine) controls charging voltage, generator amperage, and cut-out voltage.
My Optimas are set up in parallel as in photo. I've added rubber between the cables.
I had no reason to suspect the previous set were defective, being only 18 months old, but the generator and regulator struggled to keep them charged. Even sitting on the charger, they would not fully charge. That's why Optima replaced them. Look what it did to the regulator. My hope is that the new regulator, rebuilt generator by Moose Motors, and new Optimas will eliminate any problems. However, as my girlfriend says, even when I make an improvement, "It's always something with that car."

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Posted on: 2023/5/31 17:33
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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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I don't consider it quiet, but it sure does the job. It is mounted in front of the radiator. If it's hot enough for it to run when I return home, I open the hood and also plug in my under the seat battery charger, then let it run until it cools off enough to shut off.

Here's a video outside with motor and fan running.
http://www.mktx.com/packard/engineandfanoutside.MOV
Here's just the fan in the garage.
http://mktx.com/packard/fanonlyingarage.mov

Some pix of setup The front light block grounds the fan. The thermo switch is on the inner fender panel.

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Posted on: 2023/5/31 17:01
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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CHARGING NOT INDICATED: I took a friend and his family on a 3-hour tour in and around Washington DC during Memorial weekend. Car ran beautifully. Then, I took a night drive for an ice cream cone with my sister and, while lights were bright, the ammeter showed no charging to recover from the load of lights and heaters. I did the generator/voltage regulator test and the voltage regulator is bad. With the Field terminal grounded, the battery showed charging.
I ordered a new VR from Brillman, which warrants them for a year. But there's an exception. If you use a modern gel battery that is on its last legs, it will run too much juice through the regulator and burn it out, and that situation cancels the warranty.

The Optimas wore down pre-maturely, like 18 months instead of 36 months, so the company replaced them (It took a year because they were out of production with Covid). Trying to charge them up, the generator armature turned black and the VR burned blue.

I keep a small HF battery charger under the seat directly attached to the brand new Optimas and plug it into an extension cord in the garage, so when the charger light changes from red to green, I know they are capable of being fully charged, which is what is happening now. Hopefully, all electrical issues will be corrected with the new VR.

Posted on: 2023/5/31 12:14
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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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Kevin,
Here's the circuit diagram Howard created for my cooling fan. Mine is for a true 6v fan (many claim 6v but are 12v), but otherwise its the same for 12v with 12v battery, fan, relay, circuit breaker. I mounted the push-pull switch at the bottom corner of the dash so I can turn off the fan when not really needed like running errands. I have lots of photos of the wiring.

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Posted on: 2023/5/31 11:26
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Re: 245/282/356/288/327/359 thermostat gaskets
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$4.75 for one of those??? That's highway robbery, superdooperpooperoverdrive.

You remind me of the girl I used to take to Mel's Drive In who remarked,"See that girl in the '57 Chev with the ponytail? She must LIVE here."
Why do you say that?
"Every time I'm here, she's here."

Posted on: 2023/5/30 15:01
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Re: Headlight Bulbs, Trippe Light Bulbs
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Mike Paone NJ 908 322-6486 advertises in Packards International magazine. $5 for headlight $1.50 for others mbpaone@comcast.net

Posted on: 2023/5/29 23:05
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Re: 1941 120 Center Dash speaker cover
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LaVine is alive and well. Just call them. Very helpful.

Posted on: 2023/5/29 22:58
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Re: The CHANGE in two days
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Great looking Packard and super color for it. Yes, the prep takes forever and then the day comes to assemble. Two friends cane over to help me get the doirs ander, hood and trunk back on. Most of it done in a long afternoon, from hulk to handsome.

Posted on: 2023/5/25 21:00
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