Re: Which hubcaps for a 53 convertible coupe?
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Posted on: 2021/6/9 10:11
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Re: Which hubcaps for a 53 convertible coupe?
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Hey Don,
None of these have part numbers on 'em unfortunately. -Chris
Posted on: 2021/6/8 12:59
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Which hubcaps for a 53 convertible coupe?
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Hello all,
When we purchased our 53 convertible coupe last year, there were 4 hubcaps in the trunk, but they look to be from two different sets. Cosmetically they look the same, with the exception of the outer edge of the two sets. Two hubcaps just kind of roll out to a smooth edge if that makes any sense. The other two roll out to a raised area on the outer edge. Attached are pictures to show what I'm talkin' about. Which of these two hubcap types are correct for my year and model? Thank you so much! -Chris
Posted on: 2021/6/8 12:05
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Re: Manual brake conversion
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Update:
The pictures I posted earlier in this thread were from an expired ebay listing I found on google. I reached out to the seller to ask some questions about the setup and it turns out he still had the everything from that listing. After talking back and fourth for last 2-3 weeks, I ended up purchasing the setup from him. I do believe it to be a 55-56 TL manual clutch / brake setup based on all the Packard part plates I've looked at. I've talked to numerous people on and offline regarding acquiring this setup, and everyone pretty much said that this setup was incredibly rare and very uncommon. I had three different people tell me that in there 40+ years of playing with Packards, or parting them out, they had never seen this setup in person. So, if this is what I believe it to be, I got pretty darn lucky. Right now I'm in the process of putting up a 28x40 shop in my backyard, so I won't be able to really look into everything until all the dust has settled on this project. The plan in my head is to figure out what will be needed to adapt this setup to work on my 53, see if I'm able to simplify the setup, and recreate it to help others. I'd really like to put this whole Treadle-Vac / single circuit master issue to bed once and for all. Attached are some better pictures of the setup so you all can see what I'm working with. If anyone has any advice or suggestions I'd love to hear 'em. -Chris Attach file: 20210515_14313sdf5.jpg (350.21 KB) 20210517_100530.jpg (405.59 KB) 20210517_100542.jpg (315.50 KB) 20210517_100636.jpg (403.41 KB)
Posted on: 2021/5/17 13:07
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Re: Manual brake conversion
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You're right. I keep flip flopping around trying to get to the bottom of this. Really, the best way to approach this is with the master under the floor. Assisted or unassisted, that arrangement will provide the best leverage. I'll keep moving forward with this setup and see what I can figure out. Quote:
Yeah, with the placement of the original setup, and the 1:1 ratio, I think its pretty much impossible to get something to work safely and correctly. Even for the people that have put a small booster where the original setup was, if vacuum vanishes, they're going to be in a hard place. Quote:
There was actually a video on Youtube where a 53 was up on a 2 post lift and the tech was showing the brake setup that they had installed for the customer. It was a GM hydroboost mounted under the floor and was tied into the factory power steering pump. It looked like it was very nicely done. I've tried looking for the video recently but I can't seem to find it for the life of me. If I do, I'll post it here. EDIT: I found the video. https://transmissionadapters.com/blogs/blog/glen-kohouts-1953-packard-convertible Is Glen Kohouts a member here? -Chris
Posted on: 2021/5/4 10:31
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Re: Manual brake conversion
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I don't want to go with the 12v Electroboost setup. If you look at the pictures I attached in my last message, you can see that they have a mechanism between their Electroboost master and the floorboard. That mechanism changes the 1:1 ratio to 4:1. When I asked if I could use just that mechanism with a manual master cylinder, he said I wouldn't need to change the ratio. He said the stock 1:1 ratio would be fine with a manual master cylinder if I change the master bore size to account for the 1:1 ratio. -Chris
Posted on: 2021/4/30 16:54
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Re: Manual brake conversion
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So, I've been doing some research on getting rid of this Treadle-Vac setup and ran into an article on lowrider.com of all places. It details a disk brake conversion on what looks to be an old Pontiac with the same setup as our cars.
The master cylinder setup is the same unit that Howard mentioned previously. In the attached images, you can see a pivot type mechanism that looks to change the ratio away from 1:1. So, I got to thinkin, I wonder if we could use just that mechanism with a manual dual circuit master cylinder and make everything really easy. I gave them a call and ran everything by them, the gentleman on the phone confirmed that the piece I'm referring to maintains a 4:1 ratio. He then went on to tell me that I didn't need that part if I went with a manual master cylinder. He said that ratio was only needed with a power assisted setup, and that the 1:1 would be fine for a manual master. I asked him how it would be possible with the 1:1 ratio. He went on to say that if you find the right master with the right bore size, it wouldn't be an issue. I did go on to ask him if that part was available for purchase anyway, and he said it is and he "thinks" its around $160. What do you guys think? Is retaining a 1:1 ratio with a manual master possible if we change to a different bore size? -Chris Attach file: ABS Power Brakes.png (1,182.23 KB) ABS Power Brakes 2.png (1,065.02 KB) ABS Power Brakes 3.png (987.04 KB) ABS Power Brakes 4.png (1,236.34 KB)
Posted on: 2021/4/30 16:02
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WTB: Manual brake parts from a 55+ torsion level car
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Hello all,
I'm looking to convert my 53 convertible to manual brakes. Does anyone have the pedal arm, pivot bolt and related parts (excluding ms) from a manual brake 55+ torsion level car for sale? Thank you, -Chris
Posted on: 2021/4/30 14:46
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Re: Manual brake conversion
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Hey Howard, Yeah, it is kind of hard to see in the pictures. I've reattached the one where its easiest to see, but circled the area in red. It's still really dark but hopefully it helps. It looks as though the plate is underneath the pivot area which I believe would push backwards if the pedal was pushed forwards. I imagine the 52-54 plate is above the pivot point which would push forward as the pedal was pushed forward. Thank you for the part numbers. I'll have to continue to do some digging. -Chris
Posted on: 2021/4/28 11:34
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