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Re: A museum in a long forgotten country
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Roger Anderson
What great models, thanks Gerd!

I'm also a big train nut, my wife's Mom and Uncle both worked for the B & O, the first railroad in the US, RIP.

"starting torque of steam locos frequently outbids modern diesel-electric" ... yes, especially this one! and it weighs 1.2 Million pounds!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8f9VFlNyDQ

Posted on: 2013/12/10 9:48
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Re: A museum in a long forgotten country
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That last picture is interesting... it reminds me of open gear-drive steam locomotives often used here for logging back in the steam-age days (how I miss them):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-q45o3akWE

Posted on: 2013/12/8 17:12
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Re: 21st series bodies... weaknesses?
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Thanks Mark, the illustrations and description are very helpful!

Posted on: 2013/12/8 17:04
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Re: There are rumors in circulation...
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GM has blown it big time, believe me I'm no defender of them, and what they did to SAAB I won't forgive! I liked that Admiral in '76, and still think it's a handsome car, wish we'd had them here. So wondering if German's still consider Opel as home grown cars after GM control since the '20s?

I guess the point I was making is that based on sales figures Germans seem less disposed to buy cars from other countries than most others, but it's not hard to understand when they have some good ones of their own and local parts/service makes sense, though for US driving imo the Benz and BMWs I've owned seemed overly complex, finicky, and repair prone compared to rear drive V8 US cars, which, like Packard, are our classic type car, and engineered for our driving conditions over vast, sometimes very remote, distances, and not at all for efficiency, when gas was 30 cents/gallon... traditional big US cars were comparatively heavy and more crude in some respects, but they were more mechanically rugged and less needing of maintenance with their big lazy understressed iron V8s... kinda like big ZIL &c Chaika USSR cars, which took it to an even further extreme... (and I still want a UAZ 469!)

Around 1958 some of M-B's top engineers, Rudy Uhlenhaut among them, toured GM's engine machining plants and their vast transfer lines, and were astonished at the precision of the machine work to be found in the typical US car engine being produced in such huge numbers. The assembly quality fit and finish of the bodies was not up to Benz standards, but they were strong and durable. M-B (ZF?) even licensed the Turbo-HydraMatic 400 design for the S class's transmission in the 70/80s. It was when GM etc downsized and got away from the traditional type of US car and into small FWD cars that they got into real problems, it was not what their hearts were into. Many Americans drive big pickups and SUVs today mainly because they are the most like the big rear-drive V8 cars they were used to, pretty much extinct domestically.

As to beer consumption, I can guarantee that I personally do better than the 132 liter/yr of the Czechs... but prefer to not have my car assembled by someone who does!

Posted on: 2013/12/8 16:36
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Re: 21st series bodies... weaknesses?
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Roger Anderson
Thanks Howard!
Does the area where the suspension attaches to the body via spring shackles tend to be an issue? How about the rocker panel/sills, frame, floors... known to be corrosion prone, or not so much? Any other 21st Clipper owners?

Posted on: 2013/12/7 18:52
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Re: There are rumors in circulation...
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Roger Anderson
Well they do have Opel...such as it is, which is more in tune with tastes there, one would think, and not selling all that well either. I rode in one on the autobahn in 1976 that my friends in Villengen-Schveninngen had that had a 327 Chevy V8... an Opel Admiral or something? Typical GM assembly quality but would really go. They only drive BMWs now. My own experience owning BMs in the past is that they are fragile and expensive to maintain, but one of the best in driving dynamics. Not worth that trade off imo.

My wife is German descent - family names: Wolfel, Schull and Dietrich, from Stuttgart and Dresden. In my experience Germany is one of the most nationalistic car buying nations on earth... look at the top 20 on the registration list - only 2 or 3 of them are not home grown... (can you imagine that in the US nowadays?). Part of the "Not Invented Here" syndrome, one supposes. Even the Japanese will buy "Gaijin" autos at far a greater rate than the Germans will buy any "Auslander" cars... and the Japanese I
I've known consider Germans to be slackers when it comes to work ethic! (no offense, just saying!).. I mean, c'mon beer on the assembly lines? never happen in Japan! But that said, GM has never played to the Euro market properly... and look what they did to my beloved SAAB! (but coming back now, thanks to NEVS!!)

Posted on: 2013/12/7 18:08
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Re: A museum in a long forgotten country
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Roger Anderson
"an Impal...a?"

ROTFLMAO!

Nice old Caddy, in very classy colors. I like oldtimers with patina.

Posted on: 2013/12/7 17:59
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21st series bodies... weaknesses?
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Roger Anderson
Were there any specific areas tending to severe corrosion weakness on the 21st series bodies, other than the usual suspects in older and not very well rustproofed cars? What areas should be examined particularly closely for lack of integrity and/or are known to be a problem area on these cars?
My own experience is exclusive to '55 & '56s. Thanks for any advice.

Posted on: 2013/12/7 17:54
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Re: Here's a barn find that's NOT a Packard...
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Roger Anderson
I disagree that the Italians did not have had a feel for large American designs, while not big sedans, the Dual Ghia cars that the Italians did for Chrysler were outstanding, and not exactly small, and they typically used the excellent Chrysler hemi V8s of the era to boot. They made 4 or 5 superb prototypes, some were put into limited production, bought by Sinatra, Martin, and other major Hollywood notables, all are hugely sought after now. The VW Karmann Ghia was a direct crib of one of them, on a much smaller scale. Too bad Packard didn't take the Caribbean in the Dual Ghia's direction!

Posted on: 2013/10/8 19:31
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Re: Advice needed on selling car
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It most certainly is a high quality car and I never said that it wasn't, nor did I cast any aspersions or denigrate it in any way. To the diligent, if one were to look back a year or so, one might well see an ad I posted looking for a Clipper Six, and furthermore some other posts contemplating the installation of a 6 cylinder, which I consider superior in some respects to the smaller inline 8s and more trouble free than the V8s, in a '55 or '56. I'll go even farther and say that I consider the Packard 6 cyl the finest flathead six ever made. But it is also a fact that many hardcore (are there any other kind?) Packard enthusiasts to this very day blame the Packard Six, Packard 110 and Clipper 6 for a diminution of Packard prestige that some (not I) feel ultimately contributed to the downfall of the company, and that clear "prejudice" against the 6 may very well factor into some Packard buyers' decision, and I opined that it might, and being that the OP asked why the car was not selling, it is a relevant factor. That said, I myself personally consider it a very desirable car, as John above has said, however it is also an indisputable fact that some Packard aficionados may well not. My $.03

Posted on: 2013/10/6 16:14
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