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Re: Lever thingy on exhaust manifold?
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It's an external coil spring. It connects to the hear riser valve and holds it shut when closed. As it warms up it opens the valve and holds it open. Very easy to replace. Max Merritt has what you need.

-Kevin

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Posted on: 2023/1/10 17:21
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Re: KPack
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I finally got all the lights to work on the car. The license plate lights and dash turn indicators have never worked. I got the dash turn indicators working, but they are super dim. I'm assuming the bulbs just aren't getting enough current. I cleaned up the grounds, so that shouldn't be the issue. The license plate lights turned out had 12V bulbs in them. Swapping them out did the trick.

I've had some fender skirts I picked up from Tucson Packard sitting around waiting for me to do something with them. I decided to clean them and see if I could get them straightened out.

I removed all the old paint and what I could of the original undercoating. Both of them had some dings, while the passenger side had a large crease down half of it. I picked up a hammer and dolly set from Harbor Freight for $50 and tried my hand at straightening them out. I'll need to do more practice, but I was able to get them fairly decent.

The problem I'm going to have is that the Panama apparently had a lot of body work done around the rear wheel wells. It's a common rust spot, and it looks like the guy before me essentially had to redo both of the wheel openings. He didn't put the mounting holes back in when he did the work. And there is a lot of Bondo. In a perfect world I might strip the whole car and redo these areas, but that's just not going to happen at this point. The body work is acceptable for a driver and I don't want to get involved in that big of a project at this point.

It's going to be a struggle to see if I can get new holes drilled and line up the fender skirts. I'm not sure if he was able to get the correct shape or not. We'll see.

-Kevin

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Posted on: 2023/1/10 14:53
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Re: Vacation Car - 56 Patrician
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Great progress! Pretty cool to see how far you've come so far.

-Kevin

Posted on: 2023/1/10 14:45
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Re: Upolstery of door panels for the 1950`s
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Whatever the brand name... whatever anyone recommends... anyone with automotive trim shop experience will instantly recognize... it is common contact cement. Every trim shop uses one brand or the other. What my trimmers used to call "gorilla snot" (just slang– not a brand reference since there was no such brand when we were in business). Basically the same stuff– whatever the brand given. Coca-Cola or Pepsi or RC cola.

And like I said... go through all these changes... then park the car a time or two out in 100-degree heat on a summer day. Then watch what happens to all your work... give it a week.

My mission here is to simply share knowledge and experience. I don't post these things just to make up opinions or to debate. I'm just telling you what I have actually seen and experienced having once been involved in ownership of an automotive trim shop. Over several years. And working at the OEM level in the automotive biz.

What the guy does in the video is cute for a video. And even very skillful. But it won't last.


Not debating Leeedy, and I do appreciate your insight. Given your experience, how would you tackle these door panels? Assuming heat embossing is out the window, would you create the patterns by sewing the vinyl to backing foam, then glue that to the panel?

My experience with upholstery is limited to what I've seen on videos, and my own headliner installation (which doesn't translate well to the doors). From what I've seen, sewing the patterns seems to be the only other option. I'm not opposed to doing that if it's the best option. I just wasn't sure if it would look right or not.

-Kevin

Posted on: 2023/1/6 13:57
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Re: Upolstery of door panels for the 1950`s
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kevinpackard wrote:
I've been thinking about ways to go about this for a while. I don't want to send my door panels into SMS and wait an unknown amount of time to get them back (2+ years?). I also don't want to sew the lines in either.

I came across a method on YouTube of mimicking the lines using a stiffer foam that is glued directly to the panel. It is shaped to follow the contours you are going for in the end. Then the vinyl is glued and pressed into the shaped foam, and the heat-pressed lines can be imitated. It looks okay. I'm going to experiment with it once I gather the materials.

The problem with trying to do your own heat treated lines is going to be maintaining correct temperature and pressure. I can see it being difficult to maintain consistency.

-Kevin


This fellow is a real virtuoso in many ways. Applause.

However, he is simply cutting forms– easy to do with straight lines. He is also using contact cement (or what the trimmers in my shop years ago called "gorilla snot"... decades before there was such a brand name).

This all looks good in a video and even in a car. When first done. But just try parking that car somewhere on a 100-degree F summer day. You may return to your vehicle to discover your vinyl-covered door panels have lost their glued-in lines and gone flat. Or are hanging in drooping balloons. Or worse.

Unless the vinyl (or any) covering is "taught" to memorize a certain shape or embossing, it will eventually revert to being the flat sheet it was when you started. And the only way to "teach" sheet vinyl and many other materials is with steam heat or electro heat combined with pressure.

I posted photos of Mitchell-Bentley's (they made interior components for postwar Packards) door panel embossing presses. This was in a previous thread like this one.

I have seen limited success with a heat gun and wooden forms. But then somebody's gotta make the wood forms. And... with a heat gun there is always the danger of scorches or burning. AND contact cement can be extremely flammable and provide a whole new meaning to "losing face."

Things to think about.


I believe the adhesive he's using is Weldwood's Landau Top and Trim adhesive, which is apparently the one that upholsters recommend. I don't have a lot of experience with it, except for my headliner, so I can't say how it would do on the doors.

In our situation we really have 3 options:
1.) Send the panels to SMS and potentially never see them again
2.) Sew the panel lines into the vinyl to mimic the heat embossing
3.) Cut foam forms to mimic the heat embossing

I'd really like to try what the video shows. Even if it doesn't work, it would be a good experiment. If it does work, then great. Perhaps with the right adhesive it'll do okay?

-Kevin

Posted on: 2023/1/6 12:39
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Re: Upolstery of door panels for the 1950`s
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I've been thinking about ways to go about this for a while. I don't want to send my door panels into SMS and wait an unknown amount of time to get them back (2+ years?). I also don't want to sew the lines in either.

I came across a method on YouTube of mimicking the lines using a stiffer foam that is glued directly to the panel. It is shaped to follow the contours you are going for in the end. Then the vinyl is glued and pressed into the shaped foam, and the heat-pressed lines can be imitated. It looks okay. I'm going to experiment with it once I gather the materials.





The problem with trying to do your own heat treated lines is going to be maintaining correct temperature and pressure. I can see it being difficult to maintain consistency.

-Kevin

Posted on: 2023/1/4 14:56
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Re: KPack
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I've been looking forward to this for a long time. Always wanted a lift of my own. I finally pulled the trigger and got a Challenger CL10V3 installed a few weeks ago. I finished up the wiring for it yesterday and gave it a quick test run. Just enough to get the Panama off the wheel dollies. Lift seems to work fine, but I didn't want the Panama to be the first car lifted all the way up. That honor will go to a car that can be replaced if something were to go wrong.

It's interesting watching the door gaps open as the car leaves the ground. Definitely some flex in the body with all that weight hanging off the back.

Started the car, backed out it and moved it to the other bay. I need to start working on other projects on the Panama while it's still winter.

-Kevin

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Posted on: 2023/1/1 23:03
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Re: KPack
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Interesting thought on the body wrap. I suppose it may work, or at least is worth a try. Where is that stuff sold?


Amazon has several varieties. Search for chrome vinyl wrap and several mirror finish flexible types come up at around $10 for small rolls. Here is one of them.


Maybe I should look at wrapping my ugly rear bumper at the same time, lol. This stuff may work for the parking lights...a little heat and it should conform fine. It may be tough working on such a small object though.

-Kevin

Posted on: 2022/12/28 12:59
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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Don - I assumed they were silvered or chromed. I couldn't tell if what I was seeing on there was the original coating, or if it had been painted over in the past. Either way, they were both very rough with pitting and peeling. I don't think the original coating could have been saved. I do already have one of the solid state flashers, but it's not on the car right now. Honestly, I think the lights are bright enough for what I need them for. They are really just turn signals after all. The headlights are much brighter and actually light up the road pretty well at night.

acolds - I enjoy seeing improvement on the car, even if it is just a little at a time. The old lenses always bothered me. The new ones were well worth the money.

JWL - Yes, I've run across several threads where white was recommended for the taillights. I debated doing that here, but decided against it because the lenses are clear, and the white showing through would have looked strange.

Howard - Interesting thought on the body wrap. I suppose it may work, or at least is worth a try. Where is that stuff sold?

-Kevin

Posted on: 2022/12/27 23:43
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Re: 1937 Super 8
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Ozstatman wrote:
I think '37 Super Eight parts are desirable. Only trouble is connecting them up with someone who wants/needs them and can come and collect them.


'37-'39 Super 8 engine parts are all very difficult to come by. Each year is different and the parts aren't necessarily cross-compatible between years. Even with a bad rod there are still MANY good parts on that drivetrain that will help keep other Super 8's on the road.

Maybe Kanter or Max Merritt would be interested in picking it up?

-Kevin

Posted on: 2022/12/27 11:24
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