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Re: Senior & Junior
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I understand the mentality of some believing there were no senior 8's after the 384 just like Twin 6 guys saying a Packard 12 isn't as prestigious. Where I am totally confused is how the 39 Super 8 is this outcast step child, because of points about sharing body parts with a 120, yet never a disparaging word about a 40 which diluted into levels ranging from 120, 160 to 180 and also shared the exact sake parts in common. With different levels of option between the 160 and 180, yet both recognized as a senior, the line between junior and senior are even more blurred. Don't get me wrong, I realize there will always be a pecking order in any product line a manufacturer offered. I am just amazed how Packard made only one pre-war senior, that was not a real senior car! The looks of the 40 are great, but exactly the same as their junior counterpart. I totally understand the post war banter about senior, not senior, and so on. The company entered a different market, and built cars accordingly (Great cars at that!).

It is what it is. I have read numerous snide posts on AAHC board about the 39 Super, and ran across the commentary posted here about a 39 being ?a tough call? on its senior status and finally figured I would throw my two cents in. For what it costs to do a 39 Super 8 and the distaste the majority of Packard aficionados voice for them it's a wonder they are all not scrapped and forgotten about.

I realize the seeds are sewn for the outcast 39 Super 8 and the car will never be recognized for what it is. I suppose the only hope for owning a real Super 8 (recognized by the not so secret society of Packard aficionados) is to sell the 39 Super 8 that has some things in common with the junior counterpart, and classic Packard looks, and buy the much better 40 160 or 180 that has the exact same things in common with its junior counterpart, with the not so secret Packard society seal of approval.

I guess this is no different than the 54 ford guys feeling so outcast, they formed a 54 ford club. Maybe we 39 Super 8 guys are lucky we get to play with the big boys.

With all that said, good conversation! Someone that owns one finally spoke up. We all like the automobiles we collect, so what the heck, this gives us something to talk about.

Posted on: 2007/12/16 16:30
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Re: Senior & Junior
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It is strange how the 39 Super 8 is knocked around concerning its senior car status. The Classic Car Club of America FULL CLASSIC registry clearly and unmistakably recognizes a 39 Super 8 as a full classic. The 40-41 is the exact same car with the latter and much less traditional mono-cast iron engine block, yet is never questioned about its senior status. I realize the V-12 was dropped and there is basically no other holy grail left in the declining years from 40 forward. Aside from some basic body pieces, very little of the 39 Super is directly interchangeable with junior cars. Dash, interments, interior appointments, headlight shells, bumpers, trunk rack, engine, trans, air-filtration, radiator shutters, numerous chassis parts, and way to much to even list are totally different from a 39 junior car. Another secret, every time anyone with one of the ?questionable? 39 senior cars goes to buy an engine part it's 3 to 6 times more expensive than a junior part. How about having a dash redone for a Questionable 1939 Super 8? well its plastic, unlike the juniors with re-paintable steele. Guess how much it is to have the plastic dash redone for the 39 Super? about $5000 to $6000 dollars. You know why? because they were limited production cars (like all senior cars were!) I guess for those of us that saw the 1939 Super 8 as the last Packard 8 with the classic aluminum block 8 and a recognized full classic, well we were wrong! We are only entitled to spend senior car money to own and maintain these pieces of Packard history, but must sit back and be snubbed, and excluded from the ?real, secret senior / full classic? Packard circles.

I have seen this description of the 39 super repeatedly, and have finally decided to speak out for all of the 39 Super owners that are tired of hearing this! If this is not a SENIOR or a FULL CLASSIC then you better let Packard's International, and The Classic Car Club of America know, because that's how they see it.

Well, there! it's said. Now everyone can sit back and have a good laugh at the rant from one 39 Super 8 owner that finally stood up and said the words out loud!

Posted on: 2007/12/16 2:01
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Re: New Member - Help with disassembly of Power Brake Unit
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Sounds like you are close enough to phoenix we may wind up at a show or tour sometime. There is a local club, Packards of Arizona I joined the other day. I haven't had a chance to do much with them since I discovered my #8 rod treat, but they seem like great guys. As for treddle vac, I had a power brake company on Grand Ave. (Out of business)rebuild the one I had in a 58 Edsel wagon and never had any trouble. I will PM you contact info in case some local events are going on.

Posted on: 2007/4/7 13:14
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Re: New Member - Help with disassembly of Power Brake Unit
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I am in Arizona (Phoenix) also. Have not done much yet, looking for a .030" under con. rod bearing for my 39 super 8. no one seems to be able to sell me a bearing, used, new, used rod and bearing or whatever. Some good guys are trying, so I will be patient. Once finished, I would like to do some tours and shows with other Packard owners here in Phoenix. Pics of the car are posted on the owner registry. it is black.

Posted on: 2007/4/7 3:29
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