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Re: 1956 Packard Patrician Rebuild Project
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Troy Taylor
Well, Now that we know for sure it is what it is. The only reason I am upset is that we put a lot of time into choosing the right car to restore as we wanted to do a correct survivor for monetary investment purposes for legacy pass down. Had I wanted to just restore and alter the power train etc. I would have opted for a 60's-70's Mopar Mussel.

Either way, we will restore the car either with a correct 374 or the jerked over 352 painted 374 correct which visibly will not notice to the untrained eye. Either way according to the appraisers I will now wind up with a #3 rating rather than the #1 we were shooting for. That winds up being a $12k hit on the value.

Bottom line, still love my Pack and I will enjoy her for many years to come. Thanx for all the input thus far.

Dear Lord, I have truly learned "half of what's wrong with a Packard when you get it is due to the idiot before you." - And All the Packard Owners Said....Amen

Posted on: 2013/10/25 12:42
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Re: 1956 Packard Patrician Rebuild Project
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Received my response from the seller. He swears that the car was exactly as her purchased it from the original owner. If true, I still find it hard to believe that if the car was driven from 56-67 and then parked, that the engine would need to be replaced being on the road that short amount of time.

Here is the story I was given on the car.


1956 Packard Patrician 4 door I purchased this car in 2003 along with another Packard from a gentleman who drove them up until 1967 then drove them into his heated machine factory and left them there for 36 years. When the state wanted the land for our local airport he decided that at 79 years old it was time to sell the cars. After 3-4 months of going back and forth i finally got him to sell them to me .I had a tow service bring two rollbacks to the factory and take them to my house in 2003 and they were put right in my garages. Summer of 2003 I started to work on them . With gas in can and some in carb the car started right up. Took the gas tank off and had it opened up and boiled out and lined and resealed at cost of $200.00. The tank in in trunk and was not installed. This Packard has 374 cu in 6.1 L 290 hp original engine, Electronic Push Button Ultramic for 1956 (only Year made with this on Patrician. 4 Door sedan last on rolled off production line on June 25, 1956. Ultramic transmission featured a lockup torque converter with 2 speeds . Torsion - level suspension. Sold for $4160.00 in 1956 122 in wheelbase , 1748 four door sedans built, 1031 two doors Only built from march thru June 1956. Patrician was used for the 4 door top of the line sedans. Executive was introduced in spring 1956 the executive was aimed at the buyer who wanted a luxury car but couldn't justify Packard's pricing. total of 3375 patricians rolled off the line in 1956 they have hooded headlamp. Today Aug 12 2013 I went out and put a battery in car and some gas and the car started up till the gas in carb was used up , brakes are down. Before i would put tank back on you really need to clean or change the gas lines. You are welcome to come and see the car the body has little rust , most chrome good. couple extra things in trunk. It has power seats, power windows , seatbelts that were not needed in 1956 good interior, good head liner all glass good. Car is being sold as is as it is 57 years old , ready for you to restore. The car #s are 5682-4508 with 290 hp.

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Make: Packard

Transmission: Electronic Push Button Ultramic Model: Patrician

Body Type: 4 door Trim: 4 door

Vehicle Title: Clear Engine: 374 cu in 6.1 L

Fuel Type: gas Drive Type: rear wheel

For Sale By: owner Mileage: 80,000

Disability Equipped: No Exterior Color: Blue

Warranty: none Interior Color: Blue

Year: 1956 Number of Cylinders: 8 cylinder

Mad at myself for being trusting. Guess the next car wont be like that.

Posted on: 2013/10/25 9:27
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Re: 1956 Packard Patrician Rebuild Project
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Troy Taylor
The worst part about it is this guy has a hand full of Packard's and deals in Studebakers. He had a whole warehouse full of them and the Doc's he had, the plates on the car, etc. seemed to jive with the story. He has several Clippers he has restored so he is no stranger to them. Just disappointed it was not a true survivor as stated. We will still enjoy the repairs and the driving.

Posted on: 2013/10/24 21:14
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Re: 1956 Packard Patrician Rebuild Project
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Well, now since I am not numbers matching with a jerked over engine swap, I certainly am not going to sink the money I had planed into a restore that is not original. I will just pull the engine and Tranny and replace the seals since the engine does run and paint to original bronze, rework the suspension, minor bodywork and just drive it for pure enjoyment since the investment is now gone. Note to self, move slower next time and seek verification of sellers story.

Posted on: 2013/10/24 20:26
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Re: 1956 Packard Patrician Rebuild Project
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Troy Taylor
CONFIRMED KILL. The block is a 440275. Someone pulled the 374 and replaced it with a 354 Clipper Engine. Calling the seller now, it was sold as a original survivor with the 374. Someone Lied!!!!!!! I got a lead on a new 374 still in the crate. Not a happy camper at this point.

Got to Agree with (WC) "half of what's wrong with a Packard when you get it is due to the idiot before you."

Posted on: 2013/10/24 18:29
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Re: 1956 Packard Patrician Rebuild Project
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What I should have Under the Hood

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Posted on: 2013/10/23 18:28
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Re: 1956 Packard Patrician Rebuild Project
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Cleaned with solvent and brass wire bush and it seems clear that this engine had never been stamped. It does kind of look like possible bronze paint under the green in some spots. I guess I am on hold until I pull it this weekend and check the casting number.

I am down to wrong engine, right engine repainted and never stamped? or, Right engine and it is a incorrect painted service engine.

If it proves to be the 374, I can always paint to original color and stamp for matching numbers and be back in business.

Frustrating. Where was Carfax in 56

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Posted on: 2013/10/23 18:25
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Re: Getting the right wheel bearings?
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Troy Taylor
SKF is a top name in bearings. You cant go wrong with an SKF. SKF is a Swedish bearing company. Most of their Automotive bearings are made in India as are most car parts today. Far better than the China brands.

I got a set of Timken from Autozone that were a perfect fit for my pat.

Posted on: 2013/10/23 14:57
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Re: 1956 Packard Patrician Rebuild Project
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Well unfortunately there is no Vin numbers on the front or top of the engine. I will have to wait until I pull this weekend to see if there are any numbers on back. Clearly it is Metallic Green and it is Defiantly a Carter Carb not a Rochester. Thinking more and more I got a Clipper motor installed. Other option is to pull the head and see if I have a 4" or a 4.125 bore then we will know.

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Posted on: 2013/10/23 14:50
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Re: 1956 Packard Patrician Rebuild Project
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Even More sick feeling. the 56 patrician 374 should have a Rochester 4GC7008610 and I clearly have a Carter which was on the 352 CI

Posted on: 2013/10/23 9:37
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