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Re: PLEASE READ - Packard projects available Now.
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Kevin, I would love to help you get your next project, however, unless you can come up with a transport option, you will have to wait. There are 2 56-400s that are in the way, I hope Ross is able to come get one, not sure of the fate of the other, but when a very nice 56-400 driver was advertised in the latest CNB for 13K, that is summary judgment on taking on a project.
As for 41-160's....yeah, there's a bunch. What I might suggest would be the 41-120 sedan that needs the rebuilt engine installed. It is a very very worthy project and you would have nearly the same car as a 160 without anywhere near the cost/effort. It was a decent running/driving car before the engine got yanked for a rebuild.
You have already been through so much, no point in jumping into the deep end again.


What can I say? I'm a glutton for punishment.

I haven't gotten the last CNB, so didn't see that 400. As much as I would love to pick up another project, I'm afraid my wife would take some sense into me. I don't have enough space for another car anyways. Plus the cost of shipping across the country. But a nice '41 120? So tempting....

Kevin

Posted on: Yesterday 15:07
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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Thanks Kev. Being new to Packards and old cars in general, I am paranoid that I will make a rookie mistake and destroy my engine. I'll continue monitoring it for now to get a better feel for how the engine operates over longer drives. I'm considering driving in our town's big Labor Day parade, but not sure the car will maintain temps at such a slow speed.

Don, Ellensburg is a nice place. Smaller town but has everything you need. Lots of friendly people, and lots of nice views. No traffic!

-Kevin

Posted on: Yesterday 15:02
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Re: PLEASE READ - Packard projects available Now.
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Wow, this sounds amazing. I'm at the complete opposite end of the county though. I would love to see what's there and maybe get my next project. '56 400 maybe? '41 160? I'm drooling.

Some general pictures would be most welcome.

-Kevin

Posted on: Yesterday 10:48
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Re: KPack
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Thanks Howard, those numbers are helpful!

Another 15 mile test drive tonight, ambient temps about 80. A mix of slow and moderate speeds (25-55), some good hills, and lots of stop and go city driving. The gauge stayed mostly between E and M. After a 5-10 minute stop and engine shut down, the car ran hotter the rest of the way home. About mid to high M.

IR gauge at the thermostat housing at the above hot temp showed about 182 (remember the thermostat is a 160). Near the rear of the block by the sender showed about 191. Driver's lower corner of radiator showed 142 while the passenger lower corner (by the outlet hose) showed 165. Perhaps the radiator needs some work?

Everything else on the car did great. I have some drips on the garage floor that I need to look into. One looks like oil, and other looks like PS fluid.

-Kevin

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Posted on: 7/27 23:14
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Re: Various CL Pickings
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As we learned in trying to rebuild my dad's '38 using a '39 block....the water pump, pulley, and crank pulley are all specific to the '39 Super 8 engine. They are VERY hard to find. Ideally one of the Packard suppliers would pick this engine up and use it as a source for extremely rare parts. Seattle Packard, Packards Southwest, Tucson Packard, Max Merritt and Kanter all come to mind.

-Kevin

Posted on: 7/27 13:59
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Re: KPack's 1954 Panama
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It helps to know what other people are seeing on their gauges. Thanks Kev. I guess I'm hyper aware of overheating, since that's apparently what killed my dad's '38 Super engine (didn't show up on the gauge).

My other question then would be what temperature range can the engine safely operate in? IR readings on my engine varied between 180-191 after the drive last night, depending on where I was measuring. Hottest right over the piston on #7. Is there a large range of temps that are considered acceptable?

My '05 Tundra has a huge range that is "normal". The gauge stays pinned just below halfway from temperatures 184 all the way to 221. As soon as it goes above 221 the gauge starts climbing rapidly. My assumption is that Toyota designed it this way so that people wouldn't freak out when the temperature was within the operating range.

So am I safe to assume that these old Packard engines can tolerate a range of temps without issue? Say up to 200 degrees and maybe more?

-Kevin

Posted on: 7/27 10:09
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Re: KPack
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Thanks Kev and Howard. That is what I had understood from the manual. I guess I am just surprised that it's okay that the pressure can be as low as 6 PSI at idle. Mine is definitely not that low. My light has never flickered....and the light itself does work.


Tackled a couple things today on my day off. First, I was still getting this annoying fuel leak at the front where the hard line attaches to the flex line to the pump. A new flex line didn't solve it. So I decided to replace the fitting on that end of the hard line.

This required me to cut the end of the hard line off. I then used a short 2" length of high pressure fuel hose to form a junction between the original hard line and a new line, fitting and flare. For good measure I applied a thin layer of Permatex fuel-rated thread sealant to the fitting. Worked like a charm....no more fuel leak there and it was way easier to get the fittings connected.

Close inspection of the original flare showed a very small crack line that is hard to detect. Especially with the fuel line being in the location that it is. My guess is the rear has something similar going on.

I will do the same to the rear once I burn through most of the fuel in the tank. It's definitely not the best fix, but it will do for now. Eventually I will replace the whole fuel line from to back.


Also drained out all the water I had in the cooling system. I haven't seen any leaks from anywhere in the system, so I felt confident enough to put in real coolant now. I filled the whole thing up with 50/50 from Napa. Took it for a long test drive tonight when I finally had a minute. Ambient temps were 75-78. Temp gauge moved between the end of the "E" to the middle of the "M", speeds ranged from 25-55mph. I was hoping for a more stable reading at the "E", especially since it wasn't hot outside. I worry about driving more than a few miles in the day. We've been in the 90's for over a month now with no sign of letting up.

Timing is right on (as far as I can tell), vacuum advance works. New 160 thermostat, new cap, no leaks seen anywhere. What is the next place I should look to improve my cooling system? Belts have not been changed, exhaust is what was on it when I got it.

-Kevin

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Posted on: 7/26 23:59
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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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How does one lube the speedo cable? I need to do it to mine as well.

-Kevin

Posted on: 7/26 23:38
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Re: Trying to track down a Packard
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I believe the car in the picture is indeed a hardtop. The top is shiny in the light, and doesn't have the harder angles of the convertible top.

-Kevin

Posted on: 7/23 23:59
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Re: Vacation Car - 56 Patrician
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Ah, that makes sense. I was wondering why it was such a terrible job to get the seats out on your car....I've taken mine in and out several times. I didn't realize that your seats had all the motors though. Mine has none, so the seats really aren't that heavy.

-Kevin

Posted on: 7/23 17:20
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